Comments on: MoveOn’s Plaintive Cry in the Dark http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Sat, 26 May 2012 03:09:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695787 Jimmie Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:10:41 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695787 I think it's pretty obvious that he hasn't tried to work with Republicans. His only real statement on the matter to them was "I won". I think it's pretty obvious that he hasn't tried to work with Republicans. His only real statement on the matter to them was "I won".

]]> By: Thorne Cassidyhttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695785 Thorne Cassidy Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:28:48 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695785 I think that you are absolutely right that he's not capable of any bold actions. I'm not sure that his goal is to retructure the economy ala socialism, or that he hasn't, at first, tried to work with an obstinate republican opposition. That said, I hope you're right that he will fail at jacking up the taxes--but I wont hold my breath. I think that you are absolutely right that he's not capable of any bold actions. I'm not sure that his goal is to retructure the economy ala socialism, or that he hasn't, at first, tried to work with an obstinate republican opposition. That said, I hope you're right that he will fail at jacking up the taxes–but I wont hold my breath.

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]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695784 Jimmie Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:57:13 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695784 Poor guy. I'm sad that you were so easily suckered in. Poor guy. I'm sad that you were so easily suckered in.

]]> By: Thorne Cassidyhttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695783 Thorne Cassidy Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:56:32 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695783 As a libertarian, I held my nose and voted for this guy, suckered by his talk of ending the wars, the Patriot Act, Guantanomo Bay, and fighting for equality for gay families--for my family. Lower taxes and pro-life are important to me, but I'd hand over 90% of my income and consigned all the souls of all the babies in the third world to hell to spare my kids the hateful injustices that were intended to just hurt me. I am bitterly angry with myself for selling my soul in exchange for pretty words. The libertarian gets my vote from now on even if there's no chance of a win--I at least have my soul. As a libertarian, I held my nose and voted for this guy, suckered by his talk of ending the wars, the Patriot Act, Guantanomo Bay, and fighting for equality for gay families–for my family. Lower taxes and pro-life are important to me, but I'd hand over 90% of my income and consigned all the souls of all the babies in the third world to hell to spare my kids the hateful injustices that were intended to just hurt me. I am bitterly angry with myself for selling my soul in exchange for pretty words. The libertarian gets my vote from now on even if there's no chance of a win–I at least have my soul.

]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695782 Jimmie Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:49:19 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695782 I think that Barack Obama loves himself more even than his progressive beliefs. There's no doubt he shares MoveOn's beliefs, but I've never gotten the impression that those beliefs were all that important to him save as a means to climb the political ladder. I think that Barack Obama loves himself more even than his progressive beliefs. There's no doubt he shares MoveOn's beliefs, but I've never gotten the impression that those beliefs were all that important to him save as a means to climb the political ladder.

]]> By: Phineashttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695781 Phineas Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:02:07 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695781 You're right, Obama and his people used MoveOn like a cheap trick and, now that he has what he wanted, their particular needs can be sacrificed to other parts of his agenda. One quibble, though: <i>"Barack Obama never loved you. He never intended to do what you wanted him to do."</i> I think Obama shares their beliefs, if not their particular priorities. His career as a state senator showed he was quite happy to work on hard-left projects, such as the juvenile justice bill he fought in alliance with Ayers and Dohrn. After all, his beliefs are not much different from theirs. But Obama's big priorities are transforming the US and its economy, with health care as the lever. Everything else, including MoveOn's goals, can be sacrificed short-term for long term Progressive "progress." Just as any Alinskyite community organizer can tell you. That niggle aside, good post! :) You're right, Obama and his people used MoveOn like a cheap trick and, now that he has what he wanted, their particular needs can be sacrificed to other parts of his agenda. One quibble, though:

"Barack Obama never loved you. He never intended to do what you wanted him to do."

I think Obama shares their beliefs, if not their particular priorities. His career as a state senator showed he was quite happy to work on hard-left projects, such as the juvenile justice bill he fought in alliance with Ayers and Dohrn. After all, his beliefs are not much different from theirs.

But Obama's big priorities are transforming the US and its economy, with health care as the lever. Everything else, including MoveOn's goals, can be sacrificed short-term for long term Progressive "progress." Just as any Alinskyite community organizer can tell you.

That niggle aside, good post! :)

]]> By: Zillahttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/29/moveons-plaintive-cry-in-the-dark/comment-page-1/#comment-695776 Zilla Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:59:26 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14374#comment-695776 Oh, SNAP! Well done, Jimmie. Oh, SNAP!

Well done, Jimmie.

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