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> <channel><title>Comments on: Conservatives, It&#8217;s Time to Grow the Hell Up.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 03:09:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Nevada Epilogue: Amateur Candidates Often Run Amateur Campaigns &#171; Hot Air</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695621</link> <dc:creator>Nevada Epilogue: Amateur Candidates Often Run Amateur Campaigns &#171; Hot Air</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695621</guid> <description>[...] Now, that kind of experience isn&#8217;t hard to get, but it does take time. I, for one, am not eager to see the other Angle-style campaign debacles that will happen as the Tea Parties continue to learn the political ropes used as a weapon against the Tea Parties. So, at the risk of being run out of one of my favorite blogs on a rail, I&#8217;d like to suggest that the Tea Parties and the Republican Party start working together. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, that kind of experience isn&#8217;t hard to get, but it does take time. I, for one, am not eager to see the other Angle-style campaign debacles that will happen as the Tea Parties continue to learn the political ropes used as a weapon against the Tea Parties. So, at the risk of being run out of one of my favorite blogs on a rail, I&#8217;d like to suggest that the Tea Parties and the Republican Party start working together. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Put the Angry Mob on Hold. We&#8217;re Still Fighting Progressives Over Here.</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695181</link> <dc:creator>Put the Angry Mob on Hold. We&#8217;re Still Fighting Progressives Over Here.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695181</guid> <description>[...] those folks who might later want to beat me about the head and shoulders for criticizing Erick or Dan Riehl or anyone else who wants to take a brickbat to the party establishment for blowing a [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those folks who might later want to beat me about the head and shoulders for criticizing Erick or Dan Riehl or anyone else who wants to take a brickbat to the party establishment for blowing a [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LIVE AT FIVE &#8211; 11.08.10 : The Other McCain</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695170</link> <dc:creator>LIVE AT FIVE &#8211; 11.08.10 : The Other McCain</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:02:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695170</guid> <description>[...] Switch 2 MitchIsrael Matzav: Lindsey Graham Says Containment &#8220;Off The Table&#8221; For IranSundries Shack: Conservatives, It&#8217;s Time To Grow The Hell Up. &#8211; compiled by Wombat-socho var addthis_product=&#039;wpp-250&#039;;var addthis_append_data=&#039;false&#039;;var [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Switch 2 MitchIsrael Matzav: Lindsey Graham Says Containment &#8220;Off The Table&#8221; For IranSundries Shack: Conservatives, It&#8217;s Time To Grow The Hell Up. &#8211; compiled by Wombat-socho var addthis_product=&#039;wpp-250&#039;;var addthis_append_data=&#039;false&#039;;var [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Terry Ott</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695169</link> <dc:creator>Terry Ott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 02:50:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695169</guid> <description>Maybe a bit off topic but .... I think the key for the Conservative Populist Movement (which I like better than Tea Party) is to study the &quot;game films&quot; re: the candidates they put forward and/or support wholeheartedly and learn the lessons that are there.  Didn&#039;t we REALLY know O&#039;Donnell would come up a loser?  Didn&#039;t we have that same hunch about Angle?
I suspect Ron Johnson would have won just about anywhere he ran.  Knocking off Feingold was just one amazing feat.  The man was &quot;on message&quot; all the time and he came across as very successful individual that would be totally sincere and consistent no matter what setting you&#039;d project him into. No messiness in his track record.   Not a &quot;big shot&quot; or a seeker of fame and glory on a power trip.  And not shallow or shaky in ANY way.  Salt of the earth.  Genuine articles. Easy to see as a public servant who will return to the real world (whether it be business, or law, or education, or law enforcement, or military, etc) after a while in politics.  People who are more &quot;achievers&quot; than &quot;talkers&quot;, because we love and admire success stories.
Let the Democrats put forth their policy wonks and career political types, and people beholden to some special interest group(s).   Those kinds of profiles are going to be sitting ducks for the foreseeable future.
The Conservative Populist Movement must not offer up candidates who are in the least way &quot;kooky&quot; or opportunistic or with a egotistical agenda.  And no privileged people who haven&#039;t made a mark on their own.   Because the opposition will jump all over those things and probably succeed in attaching that image to the candidate in an indelible way. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a bit off topic but &#8230;. I think the key for the Conservative Populist Movement (which I like better than Tea Party) is to study the &quot;game films&quot; re: the candidates they put forward and/or support wholeheartedly and learn the lessons that are there.  Didn&#039;t we REALLY know O&#039;Donnell would come up a loser?  Didn&#039;t we have that same hunch about Angle?</p><p>I suspect Ron Johnson would have won just about anywhere he ran.  Knocking off Feingold was just one amazing feat.  The man was &quot;on message&quot; all the time and he came across as very successful individual that would be totally sincere and consistent no matter what setting you&#039;d project him into. No messiness in his track record.   Not a &quot;big shot&quot; or a seeker of fame and glory on a power trip.  And not shallow or shaky in ANY way.  Salt of the earth.  Genuine articles. Easy to see as a public servant who will return to the real world (whether it be business, or law, or education, or law enforcement, or military, etc) after a while in politics.  People who are more &quot;achievers&quot; than &quot;talkers&quot;, because we love and admire success stories.</p><p>Let the Democrats put forth their policy wonks and career political types, and people beholden to some special interest group(s).   Those kinds of profiles are going to be sitting ducks for the foreseeable future.</p><p>The Conservative Populist Movement must not offer up candidates who are in the least way &quot;kooky&quot; or opportunistic or with a egotistical agenda.  And no privileged people who haven&#039;t made a mark on their own.   Because the opposition will jump all over those things and probably succeed in attaching that image to the candidate in an indelible way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tweets that mention Conservatives, It’s Time to Grow the Hell Up. -- Topsy.com</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695144</link> <dc:creator>Tweets that mention Conservatives, It’s Time to Grow the Hell Up. -- Topsy.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:39:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695144</guid> <description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jimmie, Katherine Miller. Katherine Miller said: RT @jimmiebjr: New Post: Conservatives, It&#039;s Time to Grow the Hell Up. http://bit.ly/cM2pgT [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jimmie, Katherine Miller. Katherine Miller said: RT @jimmiebjr: New Post: Conservatives, It&#039;s Time to Grow the Hell Up. <a
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695158</guid> <description>The substantial reason our politicians are bad is that they are drawn that way by the current system of DC wins--&gt;US loses.
Which is why, unless something along the lines of Barnett&#039;s Federalism Amendment is brought in Real Soon Now, I&#039;m not terribly hopeful for the country. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The substantial reason our politicians are bad is that they are drawn that way by the current system of DC wins&#8211;&gt;US loses.</p><p>Which is why, unless something along the lines of Barnett&#039;s Federalism Amendment is brought in Real Soon Now, I&#039;m not terribly hopeful for the country.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Circular Firing Squad Takes Aim At Chris Christie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695142</link> <dc:creator>The Circular Firing Squad Takes Aim At Chris Christie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:17:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695142</guid> <description>[...] course, as Jimmie Bise notes, this criticism simply misses the point of what Christie said today, and also manages to ignore the political realities of states like Delaware: It is obvious that [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course, as Jimmie Bise notes, this criticism simply misses the point of what Christie said today, and also manages to ignore the political realities of states like Delaware: It is obvious that [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob Alloy IV</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/11/07/conservatives-its-time-to-grow-the-hell-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695154</link> <dc:creator>Rob Alloy IV</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:07:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=14104#comment-695154</guid> <description>I have a slightly different perspective on this because certain people are trying to set up a point they can constantly refer back to justify not getting the most Conservative Candidates possible to run.
Would Castle had been in a better position to win to start with?
Of course he would have as he&#039;s been a professional politician for a long while but that was no guarantee of him winning. Because we all know according to the logic that we hear repeated over and over that these states like Delaware are more liberal so if we accept that which I do not then the corollary is they will vote for the Democrat before the Republican. You can&#039;t have the one point without that corollary point as well.
Christine O&#039;Donnell despite her flaws was willing to run and she won her primary so you either support her or you don&#039;t but trying to make her the BoggyWoman to why other candidates didn&#039;t win is wrong.
Whose fault is it that the local GOP outfits are so weak?
If you concede territory to your political opposition because it is harder to win then it comes as no shock that your influence wanes. If you become more like your political opposition to win elections then it should come as no shock that eventually people will not really be able to tell the difference between you and your political opposition and stop showing up in disgust.
The Media will always try to magnify anything they can find except for Democrats who can be crooks and be elected so trying to find these saintly people to run for office is idiotic and pointless. Trying to find some political genius who will handle everything perfectly so they never look bad is also pointless.
I just see people (Lindsey Graham and Trent Lott) trying to set up a narrative they can put in peoples mind now so in 2 years and 4 years they can use it to stay in power.
When is the best time to fight that narrative?
It is right now not after it has time to set up and solidify. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a slightly different perspective on this because certain people are trying to set up a point they can constantly refer back to justify not getting the most Conservative Candidates possible to run.</p><p>Would Castle had been in a better position to win to start with?</p><p>Of course he would have as he&#039;s been a professional politician for a long while but that was no guarantee of him winning. Because we all know according to the logic that we hear repeated over and over that these states like Delaware are more liberal so if we accept that which I do not then the corollary is they will vote for the Democrat before the Republican. You can&#039;t have the one point without that corollary point as well.</p><p>Christine O&#039;Donnell despite her flaws was willing to run and she won her primary so you either support her or you don&#039;t but trying to make her the BoggyWoman to why other candidates didn&#039;t win is wrong.</p><p>Whose fault is it that the local GOP outfits are so weak?</p><p>If you concede territory to your political opposition because it is harder to win then it comes as no shock that your influence wanes. If you become more like your political opposition to win elections then it should come as no shock that eventually people will not really be able to tell the difference between you and your political opposition and stop showing up in disgust.</p><p>The Media will always try to magnify anything they can find except for Democrats who can be crooks and be elected so trying to find these saintly people to run for office is idiotic and pointless. Trying to find some political genius who will handle everything perfectly so they never look bad is also pointless.</p><p>I just see people (Lindsey Graham and Trent Lott) trying to set up a narrative they can put in peoples mind now so in 2 years and 4 years they can use it to stay in power.</p><p>When is the best time to fight that narrative?</p><p>It is right now not after it has time to set up and solidify.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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