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> <channel><title>Comments on: Israel Kills Terrorists, the World Goes Off Half-Cocked</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 21:47:48 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: salvage</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690426</link> <dc:creator>salvage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:15:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690426</guid> <description>Ah well that&#039;d be a pointless exercise because it&#039;s not a &quot;strawmen&quot; argument.
You also clearly don&#039;t know what &quot;terrorist&quot; means either. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah well that&#039;d be a pointless exercise because it&#039;s not a &quot;strawmen&quot; argument.</p><p>You also clearly don&#039;t know what &quot;terrorist&quot; means either.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690423</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:09:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690423</guid> <description>Here is your strawman. I say this, then I&quot;m done with you.
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In this case you had ships in international waters boarded by a lethal military force, to suggest that anyone in the IDF was in danger is ludicrous. If the IDF thought them truly a threat they could have sunk every boat from miles away.
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I leave it as an exercise to you to discover why it is a strawman. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is your strawman. I say this, then I&quot;m done with you.</p><blockquote><p> In this case you had ships in international waters boarded by a lethal military force, to suggest that anyone in the IDF was in danger is ludicrous. If the IDF thought them truly a threat they could have sunk every boat from miles away.</p></blockquote><p>I leave it as an exercise to you to discover why it is a strawman.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690422</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:08:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690422</guid> <description>EricH, the reason I called them terrorists is not because of the attack itself but the reason they set sail in the first place. they intended, from the beginning, to run the blockade and establish an unmonitored route from the outside world into Gaza. The IHH (the group inside Turkey who was instrumental in putting the trip together) is very closely tied to Hamas.
Bascially, breaking the blockade would open up an easy resupply route for Hamas in Gaza. More rockets and other weapons. That&#039;s why I called them terrorists. They&#039;re not attacking civilians, but they&#039;re trying to pave the ground for attacks to happen. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EricH, the reason I called them terrorists is not because of the attack itself but the reason they set sail in the first place. they intended, from the beginning, to run the blockade and establish an unmonitored route from the outside world into Gaza. The IHH (the group inside Turkey who was instrumental in putting the trip together) is very closely tied to Hamas.</p><p>Bascially, breaking the blockade would open up an easy resupply route for Hamas in Gaza. More rockets and other weapons. That&#039;s why I called them terrorists. They&#039;re not attacking civilians, but they&#039;re trying to pave the ground for attacks to happen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: salvage</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690421</link> <dc:creator>salvage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:04:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690421</guid> <description>Hmmm, the blockquote tag messed up my post, could you please delete the above? Thx
&gt;It means you&#8217;re arguing a point I didn&#8217;t make.
Uh huh, here&#039;s what you said:
I know two things for sure. First, Gaza is not the House of Woe that the Islamists say it is. No area that boasts its own Olympic-sized swimming pool (in the middle of a desert, yet) and a top-flight restaurant that does booming business is on the edge of ruin.
And then I said with deep sarcasm:
And yes, because Gaza has a nice restaurant and a pool there cannot be poverty and suffering from the blockade.
So how did I misrepresent your argument again?
Like I said, you don&#039;t even know what &quot;strwamen&quot; is. What I was doing was being sarcastic... you do know what sarcasm is right?
Here&#039;s another example:
Yes! I hate the Jews! Oohhh those Jews, hate &#039;em all the time!
Which is odd, considering half my family is Jewish and I was bar mitzvahed and all and spent a whole summer working in Israel where I learned just how full of nonsense the whole place is. Bunch of morons fighting over a dying strip of desert.
Of course the bigger idiots are the ones who think they know what&#039;s what from the other side of the planet.
I thought another invasion of Lebanon would be just about the stupidest thing the Israelis could do but this certainly tops it and here&#039;s one reaction:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-idiots-in-the-cabinet-1.293418&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-i...&lt;/a&gt;
Yeah, but Yossi Sarid probably hate Jews too and heck, he just lives there, you clearly know more than he does!
Oh and your &quot;terrorists&quot;? They came &quot;armed&quot; with tools, kitchen knives and sticks, oh yes, the IDF with their state of the art weapons equipment and training were in such danger! I flash back to Jimbo of South Park screaming &quot;He&#039;s coming right at me!&quot; as he blows the head off of bunny rabbit.
And there&#039;s the little matter of the flotilla being in international waters giving the IDF no legal reason to board them. But hey, they&#039;re Israel, they&#039;ll do what they want, they want to use forged and stolen passports to murder people, they&#039;ll do what they want!
Then again, you&#039;re Americans, you&#039;ll cheerfully invade an whole country for fake WMD so I suppose this is small potatoes. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, the blockquote tag messed up my post, could you please delete the above? Thx</p><p>&gt;It means you&rsquo;re arguing a point I didn&rsquo;t make.</p><p>Uh huh, here&#039;s what you said:</p><p>I know two things for sure. First, Gaza is not the House of Woe that the Islamists say it is. No area that boasts its own Olympic-sized swimming pool (in the middle of a desert, yet) and a top-flight restaurant that does booming business is on the edge of ruin.</p><p>And then I said with deep sarcasm:</p><p>And yes, because Gaza has a nice restaurant and a pool there cannot be poverty and suffering from the blockade.</p><p>So how did I misrepresent your argument again?</p><p>Like I said, you don&#039;t even know what &quot;strwamen&quot; is. What I was doing was being sarcastic&#8230; you do know what sarcasm is right?</p><p>Here&#039;s another example:</p><p>Yes! I hate the Jews! Oohhh those Jews, hate &#039;em all the time!</p><p>Which is odd, considering half my family is Jewish and I was bar mitzvahed and all and spent a whole summer working in Israel where I learned just how full of nonsense the whole place is. Bunch of morons fighting over a dying strip of desert.</p><p>Of course the bigger idiots are the ones who think they know what&#039;s what from the other side of the planet.</p><p>I thought another invasion of Lebanon would be just about the stupidest thing the Israelis could do but this certainly tops it and here&#039;s one reaction:</p><p> <a
href="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-idiots-in-the-cabinet-1.293418" rel="nofollow"></a><a
href="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-i" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-i</a>&#8230;</p><p>Yeah, but Yossi Sarid probably hate Jews too and heck, he just lives there, you clearly know more than he does!</p><p>Oh and your &quot;terrorists&quot;? They came &quot;armed&quot; with tools, kitchen knives and sticks, oh yes, the IDF with their state of the art weapons equipment and training were in such danger! I flash back to Jimbo of South Park screaming &quot;He&#039;s coming right at me!&quot; as he blows the head off of bunny rabbit.</p><p>And there&#039;s the little matter of the flotilla being in international waters giving the IDF no legal reason to board them. But hey, they&#039;re Israel, they&#039;ll do what they want, they want to use forged and stolen passports to murder people, they&#039;ll do what they want!</p><p>Then again, you&#039;re Americans, you&#039;ll cheerfully invade an whole country for fake WMD so I suppose this is small potatoes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: EricH</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690419</link> <dc:creator>EricH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:04:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690419</guid> <description>I was amused to hear salvage say &quot;anyone who takes a side in the Middle East is an idiot,&quot; and then take a side.
One point I&#039;ll make--the title of this post may not be accurate; only under the loosest definition could the activists be called terrorists. (Because they didn&#039;t target civilians, you see...) Terrorist sympathizers? Likely. Criminals? Almost certainly. Violent? Obviously. But not terrorists. (Not based on these actions alone, anyway.)
The distinction is an important one--if you start calling all violence &#039;terrorism,&#039; you lose your justification for saying that all terrorism is unjust, because the term then applies to violent rebellion against an oppressive regime. In geeky terms--You&#039;d have to say Princess Leia and the Rebel Alliance were likewise terrorists. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was amused to hear salvage say &quot;anyone who takes a side in the Middle East is an idiot,&quot; and then take a side.</p><p>One point I&#039;ll make&#8211;the title of this post may not be accurate; only under the loosest definition could the activists be called terrorists. (Because they didn&#039;t target civilians, you see&#8230;) Terrorist sympathizers? Likely. Criminals? Almost certainly. Violent? Obviously. But not terrorists. (Not based on these actions alone, anyway.)</p><p>The distinction is an important one&#8211;if you start calling all violence &#039;terrorism,&#039; you lose your justification for saying that all terrorism is unjust, because the term then applies to violent rebellion against an oppressive regime. In geeky terms&#8211;You&#039;d have to say Princess Leia and the Rebel Alliance were likewise terrorists.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RKS</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690409</link> <dc:creator>RKS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:58:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690409</guid> <description>It just sounds like Salvage hates Jews.
What&#039;s so hard to understand? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just sounds like Salvage hates Jews.</p><p>What&#039;s so hard to understand?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690404</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690404</guid> <description>It means you&#039;re arguing a point I didn&#039;t make. It&#039;s not the first time you&#039;ve done it here. It&#039;s like you&#039;re practicing for the Strawman Olympics or something. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means you&#039;re arguing a point I didn&#039;t make. It&#039;s not the first time you&#039;ve done it here. It&#039;s like you&#039;re practicing for the Strawman Olympics or something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: salvage</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2010/05/31/israel-kills-terrorists-the-world-goes-off-half-cocked/comment-page-1/#comment-690400</link> <dc:creator>salvage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=12611#comment-690400</guid> <description>Wow.
You don&#039;t even know what &quot;strawmen&quot; mean. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p><p>You don&#039;t even know what &quot;strawmen&quot; mean.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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