Comments on: Just Consider This the Obamessiah Version of the Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem. http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Fri, 25 May 2012 23:17:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: fosterthttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687342 fostert Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:05:51 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687342 The irony being that the innovation I speak of is medical. I have to stop innovating in the medical field because I have medical problems that can't be treated without the medical insurance I can't get. So I'll have to get a corporate job doing something else. In the end, I'll kill plenty of people to stay alive. But what else can I do? It's the only way I can stay alive. Unless somebody would give me insurance. Then, those people would live. But private industry just can't find a way to insure me, and they're fine with those other people dying too. Saves them a lot of money. But so what? People die. Your philosophy lives on. Granted, on the deaths of those people, but it's not like you care. The irony being that the innovation I speak of is medical. I have to stop innovating in the medical field because I have medical problems that can't be treated without the medical insurance I can't get. So I'll have to get a corporate job doing something else. In the end, I'll kill plenty of people to stay alive. But what else can I do? It's the only way I can stay alive. Unless somebody would give me insurance. Then, those people would live. But private industry just can't find a way to insure me, and they're fine with those other people dying too. Saves them a lot of money. But so what? People die. Your philosophy lives on. Granted, on the deaths of those people, but it's not like you care.

]]> By: fosterthttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687340 fostert Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:45:49 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687340 And you know, that $200K would go a long way to helping me with current issues. If I had that money I wasted on private insurance, maybe I could solve my medical problems. But instead, I wasted it on a business that commits fraud. And they legally can do it because they are exempt from such laws. Now, I have no insurance, don't have the money I wasted on insurance, and don't have the money to pay for finding out what's wrong with me. Yeah, private industry really worked for me. If I'd just paid nothing and got nothing, I wouldn't be angry about it. But I paid a lot for nothing, and you think this is just commerce. Now, suicide is my health plan. And this is what you support. You support a 911 event every single month. You want to kill me and these other people that die every month. And you do it just because you know these guys that want to kill me give big bucks to your party. Instead, I'll close my business and take a job at a third of what I'd usually make just to get insurance. And that is exactly what I'm doing. It's my only hope of living. And sorry about whatever new products that won't be developed, you didn't want them anyway, or did you? Health problems happen, and they are not covered by individual plans. And people like me can't even get those individual plans. We have to hide out in corporate plans so nobody notices us. So we have to do crap work that doesn't result in new products. Sorry for you, but I have to do it. Back i the day, small companies did give you insurance, now no company under 200 people offers you an insurance that actually pays for medical problems. And no company over 200 people can actually come up with a real product. The current situation makes it impossible to work for a small company. Or as your own company. It kills innovation. But hell, you guys don't even believe in science, so why would you be concerned about innovation? And you know, that $200K would go a long way to helping me with current issues. If I had that money I wasted on private insurance, maybe I could solve my medical problems. But instead, I wasted it on a business that commits fraud. And they legally can do it because they are exempt from such laws. Now, I have no insurance, don't have the money I wasted on insurance, and don't have the money to pay for finding out what's wrong with me. Yeah, private industry really worked for me. If I'd just paid nothing and got nothing, I wouldn't be angry about it. But I paid a lot for nothing, and you think this is just commerce. Now, suicide is my health plan. And this is what you support. You support a 911 event every single month. You want to kill me and these other people that die every month. And you do it just because you know these guys that want to kill me give big bucks to your party.

Instead, I'll close my business and take a job at a third of what I'd usually make just to get insurance. And that is exactly what I'm doing. It's my only hope of living. And sorry about whatever new products that won't be developed, you didn't want them anyway, or did you? Health problems happen, and they are not covered by individual plans. And people like me can't even get those individual plans. We have to hide out in corporate plans so nobody notices us. So we have to do crap work that doesn't result in new products. Sorry for you, but I have to do it. Back i the day, small companies did give you insurance, now no company under 200 people offers you an insurance that actually pays for medical problems. And no company over 200 people can actually come up with a real product. The current situation makes it impossible to work for a small company. Or as your own company. It kills innovation. But hell, you guys don't even believe in science, so why would you be concerned about innovation?

]]> By: fosterthttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687337 fostert Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:12:39 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687337 Ah yes, you are right on Doctors Without Borders. A well deserved win. I know of no organization that gets more respect in developing countries. As for assuming that progressives have some kind of religion, I'd assume you mean a meta-religion. Some kind of mix of all religions. Except for Islam, of course, which is very conservative. Progressives represent half of society and Christians represent 80% of it. So Christians are the majority of progressives. So this crazy religion you speak of must be Christian one. But let's be real, it's not a religion, and if it were, I certainly wouldn't be following it. I'm in to reality, not dogma. And I'm surprised you'd save me if I'm dying. You've made it clear that you wouldn't. After all, when I get cancer, I'll die because I've been denied insurance already. And you support the idea of insurance companies being allowed to do so. And you make it quite clear that a government option is not possible either. So I will die to support your political agenda. And you will continue to support that agenda knowing that it will kill me. So really, how are you going to save me? Watching me die isn't exactly a good way. How about raising the money it would take to save me? You think charity can make up for a government program, so pony up. Let's see that charity save me. And don't think I'm looking for a handout, I paid into the private insurance system for years and now they say they won't pay back. That's fraud, Jimmie, and you support it. All I want now is these premiums paid back to me with interest. Give that to me, and I'll shut up. But without that, I'll call it what it is: legalized fraud. And it's legalized because the Republican Party and some Democrats are bought and paid for by the people who commit this fraud. And you support it. Ah yes, you are right on Doctors Without Borders. A well deserved win. I know of no organization that gets more respect in developing countries.

As for assuming that progressives have some kind of religion, I'd assume you mean a meta-religion. Some kind of mix of all religions. Except for Islam, of course, which is very conservative. Progressives represent half of society and Christians represent 80% of it. So Christians are the majority of progressives. So this crazy religion you speak of must be Christian one. But let's be real, it's not a religion, and if it were, I certainly wouldn't be following it. I'm in to reality, not dogma.

And I'm surprised you'd save me if I'm dying. You've made it clear that you wouldn't. After all, when I get cancer, I'll die because I've been denied insurance already. And you support the idea of insurance companies being allowed to do so. And you make it quite clear that a government option is not possible either. So I will die to support your political agenda. And you will continue to support that agenda knowing that it will kill me. So really, how are you going to save me? Watching me die isn't exactly a good way. How about raising the money it would take to save me? You think charity can make up for a government program, so pony up. Let's see that charity save me. And don't think I'm looking for a handout, I paid into the private insurance system for years and now they say they won't pay back. That's fraud, Jimmie, and you support it. All I want now is these premiums paid back to me with interest. Give that to me, and I'll shut up. But without that, I'll call it what it is: legalized fraud. And it's legalized because the Republican Party and some Democrats are bought and paid for by the people who commit this fraud. And you support it.

]]> By: Link round-up: Obama wins the Nobel Peace Price « bright line ruleshttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687281 Link round-up: Obama wins the Nobel Peace Price « bright line rules Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:49:14 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687281 [...] done thus far. - Kaus gives Obama some good advice. Here’s hoping he’ll follow it. - Jimmie Bise: Just Consider this the Obamessiah Version of the entry into Jerusalem - Scalzi pretty much sums up how I’m feeling about it. (But don’t worry, I’ll [...] [...] done thus far. – Kaus gives Obama some good advice. Here’s hoping he’ll follow it. – Jimmie Bise: Just Consider this the Obamessiah Version of the entry into Jerusalem – Scalzi pretty much sums up how I’m feeling about it. (But don’t worry, I’ll [...]

]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687290 Jimmie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:15:02 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687290 Again, you guess something about me that is wrong. If I saw you dying, I would do everything I could to save you as well. It's more than a little insulting that you assume I would not. Again, you guess something about me that is wrong. If I saw you dying, I would do everything I could to save you as well. It's more than a little insulting that you assume I would not.

]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687289 Jimmie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:13:57 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687289 I don't think that he is. I think that he's been built up as one by his supporters and the media, generally. And I've never criticized progressive for having no religion. I've criticized them for having one while not being honest enough to admit it. I don't think that he is. I think that he's been built up as one by his supporters and the media, generally.

And I've never criticized progressive for having no religion. I've criticized them for having one while not being honest enough to admit it.

]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687288 Jimmie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:12:38 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687288 No, Doctors Without Borders won the NPP in 1999, <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/" rel="nofollow">according to the Nobel folks</a>. No, Doctors Without Borders won the NPP in 1999, according to the Nobel folks.

]]> By: fosterthttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/10/09/just-consider-this-the-obamessiah-version-of-the-triumphal-entry-into-jerusalem/comment-page-1/#comment-687287 fostert Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:09:49 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=10800#comment-687287 My uncle had an interesting distinction of having been a Captain in the Navy without ever setting foot on a boat. They needed him too fast to ship him on a boat. He flew on planes. But they give surgeons high ranks. He started out as a Lieutenant Commander. MD-PhD will do that. Especially from MIT and Penn. They upped him to Commander quickly when they needed someone to run a MASH unit. The Da Nang unit, which was as ugly as it gets. He never saw combat, he just saw the results. Every medical veteran from that war I've talked to says that they'd probably rather see combat, but if they did, who would take care of the injuries? Every soldier I've talked to is glad that he didn't have to work in those hospitals. And they are grateful for the treatment they got. And so are the random locals that came in. My uncle didn't know which side they were on, but it doesn't matter once you've taken The Oath. And that, I think, is the one thing that separates us. If I saw you dying, I'd do everything I could to save you. If you saw me, you wouldn't have the physical ability, and you wouldn't bother trying. So who really wants to preserve life? My uncle had an interesting distinction of having been a Captain in the Navy without ever setting foot on a boat. They needed him too fast to ship him on a boat. He flew on planes. But they give surgeons high ranks. He started out as a Lieutenant Commander. MD-PhD will do that. Especially from MIT and Penn. They upped him to Commander quickly when they needed someone to run a MASH unit. The Da Nang unit, which was as ugly as it gets. He never saw combat, he just saw the results. Every medical veteran from that war I've talked to says that they'd probably rather see combat, but if they did, who would take care of the injuries? Every soldier I've talked to is glad that he didn't have to work in those hospitals. And they are grateful for the treatment they got. And so are the random locals that came in. My uncle didn't know which side they were on, but it doesn't matter once you've taken The Oath. And that, I think, is the one thing that separates us. If I saw you dying, I'd do everything I could to save you. If you saw me, you wouldn't have the physical ability, and you wouldn't bother trying. So who really wants to preserve life?

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