It’s come to this: the official position of the leadership of the House Democrats is that vocal, public opposition to whatever they want to do is “un-American”.
This burns me. It’s not enough that Pelosi and Hoyer are lying through their teeth about what their health care scheme will do, once they finally figure out what the bill will contain, but they want you to sit down and shut up while they do whatever they want. They are miles out of bounds here and they owe us a public apology and their resignations. I also think it’d be great if we could find out exactly where the Senate Democratic Leadership and the President stand on this as well.
Make no mistake. Pelosi and Hoyer are not interested in a conversation with you if you disagree with them. If they were, they would have been listening to you long before now. They would have taken the independent study of the Lewin Group under consideration instead of perpetuating the outright impossibility that the presence of a government-run plan won’t cause people to lose the plans they already have and like.
If they really wanted a conversation, they would explain in detail how their belief that Obama care will lower costs through more preventative care even though the CBO has said that health care costs are far more likely to rise.
They can’t do either of those things because they do not have substantive answers to them. And the only way to answer direct, deliberate falsehood shouted through the megaphone of the MSM is to shout back when we have the chance to do so.
What Pelosi and Hoyer have entirely forgotten is that the sort of rowdiness they’ve seen at their town halls…wait. Let me correct that. Only Hoyer has seen any sort of rowdiness at all at a town hall meeting. Speaker Pelosi has spent her recess thus far wining and dining big-money campaign donors. I mean that literally. So what Steny Hoyer has forgotten is that the rowdiness that he saw at his town hall meeting is how democracy has always been done in this country. Jules Crittenden reminded me of that this past week. The notion of the bucolic New England town hall meeting was never true. They have always been boisterous. The only time you get a sedate town hall meeting is when they’re scripted to a fare-thee-well and take only pre-digested questions from pre-selected questioners.
The Democratic leadership says I am un-American for deciding that, after months of being ignored and marginalized, I should raise my voice. Well, to hell with that. I say that Pelosi and Hoyer’s abuse of their power — power, by the way, they only have because we the people have granted it to them — has gone well past statism and is standing with one foot firmly planted in the nastiest traditions of fascism.
UPDATE: Jonah Goldberg remembers what I had forgotten.
Moreover, if Pelosi and Hoyer had their way, these townhalls would be delivering a fait-accompli because the Democrats, starting with Obama, wanted their partisan version of health care reform to be made law before the August recess. If they had won, there would be no debate, civil or otherwise, right now because they would have steamrolled the opposition already. So what are they complaining about?
Could this editorial be a result of a fit of pique that their exquisitely-crafted plans have been thwarted by the common rabble? That’s an idea worth considering, I think.
Moe Lane also makes an interesting point.
In 2004 I voted for Steny Hoyer, actually: I figured that he was sound enough on foreign policy. Last time I voted anything except a party ticket, and given how personally embarrassing that vote turned out to be it’ll probably be the last time I do anything else except vote a straight party ticket for a while. Because voting Democratic in national elections gives people like this power.
I also voted for Hoyer in the last election. I believed, as leftists go, we could do a lot worse than him. He has seemed, if nothing else, a reasonable enough man. Guess I was wrong, huh?
I wonder what the various Blue Dogs will do now that their leadership has gone completely off the rails? Most of them are in Congress largely because of people their leadership has now pronounced un-American. Will they stand with Pelosi and her Smithers or with the folks who voted for them?
UPDATE: Linked by Sister Toldjah and Moe Lane!
UPDATE 2: The Camp of the Saints has awarded me co-Quote of the Day status.
Tags: Freedom, Nancy Pelosi, Nanny Fascism, National Health Care, Steny Hoyer
Bravo, Jimmie!
I have been writing my 2 Democrat Senators (my Congressman is a Republican) since TARP 1 to stop the insanity. All I get in return are canned one size fits all letters.
My father was a WWII veteran. I am 47. I can remember as a kid him telling me that if anyone ever suggests we should get rid of the Constitution, that I should fight against them with all my might.
That fell on deaf ears (couldn’t imagine anyone suggesting such a thing) until the last year. Now we are rushing headlong into chucking the Constitution without even taking a breather to see where we are going.
Obama’s and the left’s policies are about nothing more than gaining complete control over the people and redistributing money from those who have worked for it to those who have not.
I read Pelosi’s and Hoyer’s op-ed in USA Today with jaw agape. How comforting to know that they will “explain” everything to me so that I don’t have to attend a town hall or contact my representatives. :rolling eyes:
It’s time for them to start listening or to leave the stage so that someone who gives a flying fig about our country can replace them.
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These lefty fascists like Pelosi would be really quite funny… if WE weren’t the ones they were planning to control.
Now the DNC is deploying AFL-CIO palookas while at the same time hypocritically dismissing Obamacare opponents as paid shills -even running TV ads to slander them- and delirious SanFranNan is seeing imaginary Swastikas.
This should make clear to anyone just what these power-drunk elitists think of your opinion.
Note that whenever Obama, Emanuel, or Gibbs are asked about why polls show SO many people oppose their misguided Cap-n-Trade and Obamacare proposals, they ALWAYS segue-right-into “we need to educate the public…”.
LOL- save your breath… Constitutionally-aware American patriots don’t take lectures from Marxists.
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The op-ed actually says, shouting down the other side of the argument, preventing debate from being heard, is un-American. Which I can certainly agree with; it’s a bit more of a stretch to claim that what we’ve actually seen on video fits that description….
Interesting point–in the USA Today editorial, I looked through the first 10 pages of reader comments, and not one agreed with the authors, that the debate is being stifled, and this problem needs to be addressed.
Didn’t “Ilse” Pelosi mean to have said that these protesters are Un-German?
I definitely agree that shouting someone down can be considered an un-American trait but, as you said, that doesn’t appear to have been what has happened. What I think makes the editorial egregious is that Pelosi and Hoyer simply assume that what the protesters have been doing fits their definition. They make no allowance for any protests that might not fit their description of un-American and thereby paint the whole grassroots movement as bad.
I can just imagine the shrill voice of “Not speaker anymore” pelosi and house minority leader Hoyer.
It will be so sweet when the time comes.
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Jimmie: Bravo. Awarded your last paragraph before the Update SPOT-ON QUOTE OF THE DAY at:
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We all know that Pelosi wanted a vote before the recess because the pressure on congress once they got home would be tremendous. This proposed legislation is crazy long, and most Americans do not have time to read even highlights from it. However, as more and more details come out, it shows that it is exactly what the last health care reform attempt was – the first step to a completely socialized health care system.
Contact your elected federal officials and tell them what you think. An email takes about 5 minutes. Write a letter, call, encourage your friends to do the same. If you do have one of the elusive public meetings in your area, go to it and make your voice heard. The First Ammendment rocks. Use it.
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I just wrote Rep. Hoyer expressing my disappointment in his actions, via the email form on the House Leader website since I am not a MD resident. On his Maryland website, however, the poll he has up is running about 78% against the health care bill. As an Independent/conservative voter, I regarded him more favorably than most Democrats and often wished he was Speaker instead of her Royal Shrillness.
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