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> <channel><title>Comments on: This is What a Representative Democracy Looks Like</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 18:39:26 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: suek</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685487</link> <dc:creator>suek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685487</guid> <description>Well fostert..you _are_ going to die.  I know that&#039;s a shock, but it _will_ happen.
In the meantime, your choice is to pay for your medical requirements yourself or do without.
Is there some reason why somebody else should pay for your health problems? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well fostert..you _are_ going to die.  I know that&#039;s a shock, but it _will_ happen.</p><p>In the meantime, your choice is to pay for your medical requirements yourself or do without.</p><p>Is there some reason why somebody else should pay for your health problems?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685481</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:38:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685481</guid> <description>I&#039;ve already done that a time or two, fostert. I&#039;m not inclined to do it again. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve already done that a time or two, fostert. I&#039;m not inclined to do it again.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685479</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:29:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685479</guid> <description>But really Jimmie, can we hear your defense of the current system or any of the Republican plans?  You claim to have some kind of plan, so tell me how it works and why I would want to die under that plan rather than other plans I might die under. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But really Jimmie, can we hear your defense of the current system or any of the Republican plans?  You claim to have some kind of plan, so tell me how it works and why I would want to die under that plan rather than other plans I might die under.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685477</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685477</guid> <description>Oh, and by the way, I didn&#039;t mention the weird diseases I&#039;ve accumulated.  The vast majority of them don&#039;t even have names or cures.  But here&#039;s two you might have heard of: Malaria and Dengue Fever.  Combine those with a dozen unknown diseases, and nobody knows what happens.  I&#039;m still trying to work it out myself.  I&#039;ve tried to get doctors to help.  I&#039;ve offered a bunch of doctors this deal:  I pay $5,000 up front for continual treatment and $50,000 if you cure me.  No takers on that one.  And I don&#039;t even discuss neurological issues.  If you saw my neck X-ray, you&#039;d know why if you could read it.  It&#039;s actually quite simple and a neurosurgeon explained it to me: people who have necks like this don&#039;t walk.  When he first saw that film, he assumed I was quadriplegic already.  When I walked in to see him, he was literally shocked.  I asked him about surgery and what it might cost.  And he explained that nobody has ever done a surgery like that (they still haven&#039;t, I work in the field now), and it wouldn&#039;t be recommended.  And now that I know the field well, I just don&#039;t see how my situation could possibly be corrected. But until it is corrected, I can&#039;t get insurance.  That X-ray is really scary, and it was admitted as evidence in a court case, so now it&#039;s a matter of public record.  So I am simply doomed.  I&#039;ve lived with my medical problems for most of my life, and they aren&#039;t immediately life-threatening.  But cancer is a huge threat and is very expensive.  Everyone has their betting cube.  Mine is simple.  Three sides say &#039;cancer.&#039; Two sides say &#039;quadriplegic,&#039; and one side says I&#039;m okay as long as I don&#039;t get stung by a bee.  Want to roll that die?  Insurances companies surely do not.  And I don&#039;t blame them.  But I have rolled that die, and I don&#039;t know how it landed yet.  But I will find out, and it will be very bad.  I only hope for death over being condemned to a wheelchair.
But there is one thing that is for certain: no private company will get anywhere near me.  The government may not be great, but they are the only chance I have.  Unless, of course, Jimmie comes through to convince an insurance company to cover me in exchange for donations to the Republican Party. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way, I didn&#039;t mention the weird diseases I&#039;ve accumulated.  The vast majority of them don&#039;t even have names or cures.  But here&#039;s two you might have heard of: Malaria and Dengue Fever.  Combine those with a dozen unknown diseases, and nobody knows what happens.  I&#039;m still trying to work it out myself.  I&#039;ve tried to get doctors to help.  I&#039;ve offered a bunch of doctors this deal:  I pay $5,000 up front for continual treatment and $50,000 if you cure me.  No takers on that one.  And I don&#039;t even discuss neurological issues.  If you saw my neck X-ray, you&#039;d know why if you could read it.  It&#039;s actually quite simple and a neurosurgeon explained it to me: people who have necks like this don&#039;t walk.  When he first saw that film, he assumed I was quadriplegic already.  When I walked in to see him, he was literally shocked.  I asked him about surgery and what it might cost.  And he explained that nobody has ever done a surgery like that (they still haven&#039;t, I work in the field now), and it wouldn&#039;t be recommended.  And now that I know the field well, I just don&#039;t see how my situation could possibly be corrected. But until it is corrected, I can&#039;t get insurance.  That X-ray is really scary, and it was admitted as evidence in a court case, so now it&#039;s a matter of public record.  So I am simply doomed.  I&#039;ve lived with my medical problems for most of my life, and they aren&#039;t immediately life-threatening.  But cancer is a huge threat and is very expensive.  Everyone has their betting cube.  Mine is simple.  Three sides say &#039;cancer.&#039; Two sides say &#039;quadriplegic,&#039; and one side says I&#039;m okay as long as I don&#039;t get stung by a bee.  Want to roll that die?  Insurances companies surely do not.  And I don&#039;t blame them.  But I have rolled that die, and I don&#039;t know how it landed yet.  But I will find out, and it will be very bad.  I only hope for death over being condemned to a wheelchair.</p><p>But there is one thing that is for certain: no private company will get anywhere near me.  The government may not be great, but they are the only chance I have.  Unless, of course, Jimmie comes through to convince an insurance company to cover me in exchange for donations to the Republican Party.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685476</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685476</guid> <description>And if you don&#039;t think the current situation is a death sentence, then pull some strings for me.  Get your friends in the insurance industry to cover me.  Prove to me that the private system works by getting your Republican Congressman to force a single insurance company to offer me insurance.  And not the fraudulent insurance that only covers problems I am immune to.  I&#039;m talking about insurance that actually covers my potential health problems.  And you must find a company that wants a person who is genetically pre-dispositioned to cancer, has more concussions than Troy Aikman, a neck that is highly unstable, a bee sting allergy that is not only the most severe ever recorded in history, but also can&#039;t even be explained by any doctor, asthma, bipolar disorder, and a sunken chest cavity.  Surely your favorite insurance company will gladly take me right?
I&#039;ll offer this to the Republican Party:  Whatever tax break you give me on insurance that I can&#039;t buy, I&#039;ll donate it back to the Republican Party on one condition: the Republican Party must pay for all of my medical expenses.  Want that deal?  Didn&#039;t think so. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you don&#039;t think the current situation is a death sentence, then pull some strings for me.  Get your friends in the insurance industry to cover me.  Prove to me that the private system works by getting your Republican Congressman to force a single insurance company to offer me insurance.  And not the fraudulent insurance that only covers problems I am immune to.  I&#039;m talking about insurance that actually covers my potential health problems.  And you must find a company that wants a person who is genetically pre-dispositioned to cancer, has more concussions than Troy Aikman, a neck that is highly unstable, a bee sting allergy that is not only the most severe ever recorded in history, but also can&#039;t even be explained by any doctor, asthma, bipolar disorder, and a sunken chest cavity.  Surely your favorite insurance company will gladly take me right?</p><p>I&#039;ll offer this to the Republican Party:  Whatever tax break you give me on insurance that I can&#039;t buy, I&#039;ll donate it back to the Republican Party on one condition: the Republican Party must pay for all of my medical expenses.  Want that deal?  Didn&#039;t think so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685475</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:10:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685475</guid> <description>But even when you look at Malkin&#039;s footage, it was compiled from years of footage and they weren&#039;t elected officials trying to hold a responsible discussion of issues they will vote on.  The recent disruptions are compiled over three days and are far worse.  And they are disrupting elected officials trying to discuss a very real issue.  But that&#039;s neither here nor there, we cannot expect Republicans to even discuss a very important policy issue.  Want to talk?  I&#039;m here and will do it.
And this issue is real.  It&#039;s a matter of life and death for me.  If the current situation continues, I die in ten years because I am barred from buying insurance.  If a situation arises where I might be able to actually become insured, I might live.  And it&#039;s really simple: Republicans want me to die, Democrats want me to get treatment that might save me.  I&#039;d prefer to live, so I&#039;m with the Democrats.  If you Republicans want me to support your plan, it must include a chance for me to live.  So far, every Republican plan is the same old death sentence.  And it doesn&#039;t surprise me at all that you really do want to kill me.  But don&#039;t expect me to vote for you if that&#039;s what you want for me. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But even when you look at Malkin&#039;s footage, it was compiled from years of footage and they weren&#039;t elected officials trying to hold a responsible discussion of issues they will vote on.  The recent disruptions are compiled over three days and are far worse.  And they are disrupting elected officials trying to discuss a very real issue.  But that&#039;s neither here nor there, we cannot expect Republicans to even discuss a very important policy issue.  Want to talk?  I&#039;m here and will do it.</p><p>And this issue is real.  It&#039;s a matter of life and death for me.  If the current situation continues, I die in ten years because I am barred from buying insurance.  If a situation arises where I might be able to actually become insured, I might live.  And it&#039;s really simple: Republicans want me to die, Democrats want me to get treatment that might save me.  I&#039;d prefer to live, so I&#039;m with the Democrats.  If you Republicans want me to support your plan, it must include a chance for me to live.  So far, every Republican plan is the same old death sentence.  And it doesn&#039;t surprise me at all that you really do want to kill me.  But don&#039;t expect me to vote for you if that&#039;s what you want for me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685474</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:52:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685474</guid> <description>Okay, so I watched the Tom Tancredo incident, and what happens?  The police take them away.  The Columbia incident appears to be the right wing Minutemen protesting, so I&#039;m not sure why the liberals are at fault for  a right wing group&#039;s antics.  The logging incident has nothing to do with free speech, but much to do with who owns the trees.  And let&#039;s get real about that. I as a taxpayer supposedly own them, but not really.  Apparently I&#039;m supposed to buy trees for the logging companies.  I buy them, they get the right to cut them down and sell them.  And do I get my cut of the profits? Surely not, they got to the Republican Party.  As for Christian evangelists, creating a public nuisance is a crime.  Liberals get arrested for that all the time.  You conservatives are such wimps you can&#039;t take a night in jail like the rest of us?  As for the cross stomping, I wouldn&#039;t do that, but it is protected speech and no person was harmed and no speech was disrupted.  And I&#039;ll admit I&#039;d be offended if someone stomped on a Buddha.  But considering how many times I&#039;ve faced discrimination for my Buddhist beliefs, I just brush it off now. I know damn well that Christians will never understand, so I don&#039;t even care.  Maybe you should grow a skin as thick as mine.  Or maybe you should just stop discriminating against me.  Either way, I don&#039;t care.  If you don&#039;t want my business, then I don&#039;t have any desire to give it to you.
That&#039;s really weak, and if that&#039;s the best you got, there&#039;s several hundred hours of Republicans preventing their elected officials from addressing their constituents.  That&#039;s real disruption and actually a real crime.  Now there was a a real crime committed in the Tancredo footage.  And the police actually arrested people for it, as they should.  When do Republicans get arrested for the crimes they commit?  Never, obviously. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so I watched the Tom Tancredo incident, and what happens?  The police take them away.  The Columbia incident appears to be the right wing Minutemen protesting, so I&#039;m not sure why the liberals are at fault for  a right wing group&#039;s antics.  The logging incident has nothing to do with free speech, but much to do with who owns the trees.  And let&#039;s get real about that. I as a taxpayer supposedly own them, but not really.  Apparently I&#039;m supposed to buy trees for the logging companies.  I buy them, they get the right to cut them down and sell them.  And do I get my cut of the profits? Surely not, they got to the Republican Party.  As for Christian evangelists, creating a public nuisance is a crime.  Liberals get arrested for that all the time.  You conservatives are such wimps you can&#039;t take a night in jail like the rest of us?  As for the cross stomping, I wouldn&#039;t do that, but it is protected speech and no person was harmed and no speech was disrupted.  And I&#039;ll admit I&#039;d be offended if someone stomped on a Buddha.  But considering how many times I&#039;ve faced discrimination for my Buddhist beliefs, I just brush it off now. I know damn well that Christians will never understand, so I don&#039;t even care.  Maybe you should grow a skin as thick as mine.  Or maybe you should just stop discriminating against me.  Either way, I don&#039;t care.  If you don&#039;t want my business, then I don&#039;t have any desire to give it to you.</p><p>That&#039;s really weak, and if that&#039;s the best you got, there&#039;s several hundred hours of Republicans preventing their elected officials from addressing their constituents.  That&#039;s real disruption and actually a real crime.  Now there was a a real crime committed in the Tancredo footage.  And the police actually arrested people for it, as they should.  When do Republicans get arrested for the crimes they commit?  Never, obviously.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: suek</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/08/03/this-is-what-a-representative-democracy-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-685471</link> <dc:creator>suek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:33:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=9816#comment-685471</guid> <description>Here ya go fostert.  This link&#039;s for you...
&lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what-mob-rule-looks-like/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what...&lt;/a&gt;
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here ya go fostert.  This link&#039;s for you&#8230;</p><p> <a
href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what-mob-rule-looks-like/" rel="nofollow"></a><a
href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what</a>&#8230;</p><p>Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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