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> <channel><title>Comments on: Black Hole and Explosions, Oh My!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 06:20:26 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Well, At Least We Weren&#8217;t Devoured By the Nuclear Chaos &#124; The Sundries Shack</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-689581</link> <dc:creator>Well, At Least We Weren&#8217;t Devoured By the Nuclear Chaos &#124; The Sundries Shack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-689581</guid> <description>[...] reckoning would heave their rugose and Cyclopean bulks into our universe.So that&#8217;s good.I have written about the LHC before and even devoted a short segment on The Delivery to its latest operating woes. I am glad [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reckoning would heave their rugose and Cyclopean bulks into our universe.So that&#8217;s good.I have written about the LHC before and even devoted a short segment on The Delivery to its latest operating woes. I am glad [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cheesestick</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677966</link> <dc:creator>Cheesestick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:34:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677966</guid> <description>LOL - Okay, that&#039;s good to know.  Just didn&#039;t know if you meant &quot;interesting&quot; like comets &amp; solar flares could get very interesting....or &quot;interesting&quot; like Pluto&#039;s not really a planet interesting.  Basically just needed an indication of if it was &quot;time to move to the bunker&quot; interesting. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; Okay, that&#039;s good to know.  Just didn&#039;t know if you meant &quot;interesting&quot; like comets &amp; solar flares could get very interesting&#8230;.or &quot;interesting&quot; like Pluto&#039;s not really a planet interesting.  Basically just needed an indication of if it was &quot;time to move to the bunker&quot; interesting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677924</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677924</guid> <description>It&#039;s an interesting thing that&#039;s not likely to affect you at all. Like Mr. Science Guy explained, though, it could be useful later when we want to do interstellar traveling. Shockwaves that can push around gas like that will definitely have an influence on a spacecraft&#039;s courts (like his hurrical analogy).
It was just a story that caught my eye and made me say &quot;Hmm...neat!&quot;. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s an interesting thing that&#039;s not likely to affect you at all. Like Mr. Science Guy explained, though, it could be useful later when we want to do interstellar traveling. Shockwaves that can push around gas like that will definitely have an influence on a spacecraft&#039;s courts (like his hurrical analogy).</p><p>It was just a story that caught my eye and made me say &quot;Hmm&#8230;neat!&quot;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677923</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677923</guid> <description>It seems that &quot;blown away&quot; would have been the best approximation I wanted, but I went for something a bit more punchy. Probably shouldn&#039;t have. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that &quot;blown away&quot; would have been the best approximation I wanted, but I went for something a bit more punchy. Probably shouldn&#039;t have.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. Science Guy</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677919</link> <dc:creator>Mr. Science Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677919</guid> <description>None of the above.
Like so many pure science stories, the layman&#039;s headline for this one is &quot;Scientist thinks up plausible guess--mystifying, obscure measurement becomes merely obscure.&quot; It&#039;s mildly relevant to interstellar travel, and it will influence other scientists&#039; theories, but that&#039;s probably about it. (That&#039;s not to say it&#039;s useless--if Aristotle had accurate theories about how hurricanes work, not many of his contemporaries would care much, given how rarely hurricanes affect shipping in the Mediterranian--but a millenium or two later, it might be considered the most important work he ever did.)
&lt;blockquote&gt;I was running the risk of using exactly the same terms as the article in my summation and figured that approximations would work. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hoping that the science journalist was giving an accurate precis of the facts? In my experience, the odds are not good.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Really, the gas is being evaporated by the shockwave.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Still trying to approximate what&#039;s going on in terms that your audience can relate to? I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s any better--gases don&#039;t evaporate. &quot;Dissipated&quot; is a better word in this case, I&#039;d say. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the above.</p><p>Like so many pure science stories, the layman&#039;s headline for this one is &quot;Scientist thinks up plausible guess&#8211;mystifying, obscure measurement becomes merely obscure.&quot; It&#039;s mildly relevant to interstellar travel, and it will influence other scientists&#039; theories, but that&#039;s probably about it. (That&#039;s not to say it&#039;s useless&#8211;if Aristotle had accurate theories about how hurricanes work, not many of his contemporaries would care much, given how rarely hurricanes affect shipping in the Mediterranian&#8211;but a millenium or two later, it might be considered the most important work he ever did.)</p><blockquote><p>I was running the risk of using exactly the same terms as the article in my summation and figured that approximations would work.</p></blockquote><p>Hoping that the science journalist was giving an accurate precis of the facts? In my experience, the odds are not good.</p><blockquote><p>Really, the gas is being evaporated by the shockwave.</p></blockquote><p>Still trying to approximate what&#039;s going on in terms that your audience can relate to? I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s any better&#8211;gases don&#039;t evaporate. &quot;Dissipated&quot; is a better word in this case, I&#039;d say.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cheesestick</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677917</link> <dc:creator>Cheesestick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677917</guid> <description>Okay, I do like most of the science stuff you post, but I&#039;m not really all that smart about all this...can you please explain what this means to me?  Are we going to die?  Should I buy more rice?  LOL  I&#039;m kind of skeered... </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I do like most of the science stuff you post, but I&#039;m not really all that smart about all this&#8230;can you please explain what this means to me?  Are we going to die?  Should I buy more rice?  LOL  I&#039;m kind of skeered&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677914</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:22:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677914</guid> <description>I was running the risk of using exactly the same terms as the article in my summation and figured that approxiamtions would work. Really, the gas is being evaporated by the shockwave. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was running the risk of using exactly the same terms as the article in my summation and figured that approxiamtions would work. Really, the gas is being evaporated by the shockwave.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. Science Guy</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/01/12/black-hole-and-explosions-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-677910</link> <dc:creator>Mr. Science Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:37:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=7436#comment-677910</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The gas that should be there is being destroyed, the new theory says, by the shockwaves from exploding stars&lt;/blockquote&gt;
OK, just to be pedantic--&quot;destroyed&quot; isn&#039;t the word you want there. The black hole should gobble up any gas in the region that gets cool (that is, slow) enough. Supernova shockwaves heat (accelerate) the cooler gas, without as much effect on gas that&#039;s already hot. At least, that seems to be the theory. Thus, the gas gets a chance to leave the area where it&#039;s in danger of being swallowed by the black hole. Left unexplained is where that gas ends up....
&lt;blockquote&gt;so the gas that should be there gets the brunt of the energy and disappears.&lt;/blockquote&gt; From that area, not altogether. Matter is still conserved. (OK, mass-energy, but in this case calling it &#039;conservation of matter&#039; is probably an accurate approximation.) </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The gas that should be there is being destroyed, the new theory says, by the shockwaves from exploding stars</p></blockquote><p>OK, just to be pedantic&#8211;&quot;destroyed&quot; isn&#039;t the word you want there. The black hole should gobble up any gas in the region that gets cool (that is, slow) enough. Supernova shockwaves heat (accelerate) the cooler gas, without as much effect on gas that&#039;s already hot. At least, that seems to be the theory. Thus, the gas gets a chance to leave the area where it&#039;s in danger of being swallowed by the black hole. Left unexplained is where that gas ends up&#8230;.</p><blockquote><p>so the gas that should be there gets the brunt of the energy and disappears.</p></blockquote><p> From that area, not altogether. Matter is still conserved. (OK, mass-energy, but in this case calling it &#039;conservation of matter&#039; is probably an accurate approximation.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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