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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ms dallas - I&#039;ll go find that quote in my own. If Keith Olbermann told be it was raining, I&#039;d feel confident in going outside without an umbrella and staying dry for a long, long time.

Okay, now that I&#039;ve seen it, I can certainly see how someone who didn&#039;t know anything about Tiger Woods except what they see could construe that as a racist statement. However, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/april97/tiger970430.html&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tiger himself has said&lt;/a&gt; that he is not black but a mix of many races. For that he was pilloried by black activists as a &quot;traitor&quot;. So the racial comparison only works on the most superficial skin tone level.

However, what I believe he was saying clearly is that Barack Obama has been treated by the media, much as Tiger Woods has been, as simply unbeatable. More often than not, stories about tournaments where Tiger competes have come down to &quot;Who will finish second?&quot; because it&#039;s assumed that Tiger will win. Barack Obama has been treated exactly the same way by the MSM since he won the Iowa Caucuses and I think that&#039;s the comparison that Bellavia was making. 

Though it&#039;s fair to note that a prominent Democrat also likened Obama to Tiger Woods &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/whats_with_the.html&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in an explicitly racial&lt;/a&gt; way without protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ms dallas &#8211; I&#8217;ll go find that quote in my own. If Keith Olbermann told be it was raining, I&#8217;d feel confident in going outside without an umbrella and staying dry for a long, long time.</p>
<p>Okay, now that I&#8217;ve seen it, I can certainly see how someone who didn&#8217;t know anything about Tiger Woods except what they see could construe that as a racist statement. However, <a href="http://www.salon.com/april97/tiger970430.html" rel="external" rel="nofollow">Tiger himself has said</a> that he is not black but a mix of many races. For that he was pilloried by black activists as a &#8220;traitor&#8221;. So the racial comparison only works on the most superficial skin tone level.</p>
<p>However, what I believe he was saying clearly is that Barack Obama has been treated by the media, much as Tiger Woods has been, as simply unbeatable. More often than not, stories about tournaments where Tiger competes have come down to &#8220;Who will finish second?&#8221; because it&#8217;s assumed that Tiger will win. Barack Obama has been treated exactly the same way by the MSM since he won the Iowa Caucuses and I think that&#8217;s the comparison that Bellavia was making. </p>
<p>Though it&#8217;s fair to note that a prominent Democrat also likened Obama to Tiger Woods <a href="http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/whats_with_the.html" rel="external" rel="nofollow">in an explicitly racial</a> way without protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, where are my facts incorrect? Again, evidence, please. You&#039;ve made a lot of assertions and, when asked for proof, have offered none. 

You say that we have no business in Iraq. I say they clearly violated a cease-fire which gives up more than ample legal reason to be there. John McCain did not say that we would be in Iraq 100 years. That fib was debunked almost immediately after it came out. You&#039;re welcome to find the evidence for that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hoping_for_100_years.html&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, in his own words at the time he made the &quot;hundred years&quot; statement.

Belief is fine, man. Have all the beliefs you want. But at some point you will need fact to back it up or your life is going to be very, very frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, where are my facts incorrect? Again, evidence, please. You&#8217;ve made a lot of assertions and, when asked for proof, have offered none. </p>
<p>You say that we have no business in Iraq. I say they clearly violated a cease-fire which gives up more than ample legal reason to be there. John McCain did not say that we would be in Iraq 100 years. That fib was debunked almost immediately after it came out. You&#8217;re welcome to find the evidence for that <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hoping_for_100_years.html" rel="external" rel="nofollow">here</a>, in his own words at the time he made the &#8220;hundred years&#8221; statement.</p>
<p>Belief is fine, man. Have all the beliefs you want. But at some point you will need fact to back it up or your life is going to be very, very frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie,
Your facts are not compeltely in order either.  Also consider the source on where you obtain information.  In closing I will say, to this day American has NO reason to be in Iraq.  John McCain wants us there for 100 years.  He speaks of cutting taxes which is impossible to reduce this rediculous deficit.  He speaks nothing on economy and only about a war and his capitivity of nearly 40years ago.  Also, he didn&#039;t find MLK worthy of a National Holiday and the man died for civil rights.  Had he not been killed, he would have been president of the US by now.  You say Obama has done next to nothing.  I can&#039;t wait until he takes over the WhiteHouse to continue doing next to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie,<br />
Your facts are not compeltely in order either.  Also consider the source on where you obtain information.  In closing I will say, to this day American has NO reason to be in Iraq.  John McCain wants us there for 100 years.  He speaks of cutting taxes which is impossible to reduce this rediculous deficit.  He speaks nothing on economy and only about a war and his capitivity of nearly 40years ago.  Also, he didn&#8217;t find MLK worthy of a National Holiday and the man died for civil rights.  Had he not been killed, he would have been president of the US by now.  You say Obama has done next to nothing.  I can&#8217;t wait until he takes over the WhiteHouse to continue doing next to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, again, you&#039;re not representing the facts correctly. Obama didn&#039;t &quot;work in the trenches&quot;. He spent time as a community organizer until he saw that he didn&#039;t have any real power that way, which is when he went to law school and started his political career. His quest hasn&#039;t been to help, else he wouldn&#039;t have had so many &quot;present&quot; votes in the Illinois Senate.

Obama&#039;s tradition isn&#039;t that of Martin Luther King, Jr who believed with all his heart in one day bringing about a color-blind society. He&#039;s been exactly the obvious, using his background gotten from Saul Alinksy to stoke old grievances and produce very little. 

I&#039;ll give you one example. One of Obama&#039;s big victories as a community organizer was in helping folks who lived in a very poor complex called Altgeld Gardens (even though &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/02/sweet_column_did_obama_take_to.html&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some residents dispute&lt;/a&gt; that he did very much at all). But when he left for the soothing academia of Harvard, those folks were still living in a slum, mired in poverty. How, exactly, did he help them to a better life? 

In addition, Obama&#039;s worked very closely with a group called ACORN which has most recently had several of its members convicted of election fraud. Did that help any poor people to a better life?

For all his talk, Obama&#039;s produced next to nothing in terms of helping folks work their way out of their poverty or misery. MLK eschewed the sort of fame that Obama has sought for most of his adult life so that he could devote himself to what he saw as his life&#039;s work - a society where a person would be judged on their merits and not their skin color. Barack Obama has a long, long way to go to live up to that example.

ms dallas - I don&#039;t know about it, but I&#039;ll look it up. Did that happen during the Republican Convention, because that&#039;s the accusation you made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, again, you&#8217;re not representing the facts correctly. Obama didn&#8217;t &#8220;work in the trenches&#8221;. He spent time as a community organizer until he saw that he didn&#8217;t have any real power that way, which is when he went to law school and started his political career. His quest hasn&#8217;t been to help, else he wouldn&#8217;t have had so many &#8220;present&#8221; votes in the Illinois Senate.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s tradition isn&#8217;t that of Martin Luther King, Jr who believed with all his heart in one day bringing about a color-blind society. He&#8217;s been exactly the obvious, using his background gotten from Saul Alinksy to stoke old grievances and produce very little. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you one example. One of Obama&#8217;s big victories as a community organizer was in helping folks who lived in a very poor complex called Altgeld Gardens (even though <a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/02/sweet_column_did_obama_take_to.html" rel="external" rel="nofollow">some residents dispute</a> that he did very much at all). But when he left for the soothing academia of Harvard, those folks were still living in a slum, mired in poverty. How, exactly, did he help them to a better life? </p>
<p>In addition, Obama&#8217;s worked very closely with a group called ACORN which has most recently had several of its members convicted of election fraud. Did that help any poor people to a better life?</p>
<p>For all his talk, Obama&#8217;s produced next to nothing in terms of helping folks work their way out of their poverty or misery. MLK eschewed the sort of fame that Obama has sought for most of his adult life so that he could devote himself to what he saw as his life&#8217;s work &#8211; a society where a person would be judged on their merits and not their skin color. Barack Obama has a long, long way to go to live up to that example.</p>
<p>ms dallas &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about it, but I&#8217;ll look it up. Did that happen during the Republican Convention, because that&#8217;s the accusation you made.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie,
I can appreciate you knowing some of your history, but the text books are not the same.  
This is where you and I disagree.  You vote according to track record.  MLK had no record when minorities put their trust in him.  The record was developed along the way and became history.  I don&#039;t know much about John McCain, but the things I&#039;ve seen have not convinced me that his so called experience is going to be any different than what we already have.  Obama worked down in the trenches to help whoever was there and wanted his help.  MLK worked in the ghettos and hoods to motivate minorites and let them know we should have a better life. I understand the democrats position during the King era along with the Kennedy factor.  I understand that black people voted republican for many years (in the blind). The reason I say your mind is closed, is you say &quot;Hope doesn&#039;t do anything&quot;.  Black people had hope when we didn&#039;t have the right to vote.  We didn&#039;t have to ask anyone to give it to us.  If it wasn&#039;t for MLK having Hope, this opportunity for Obama would not be possible. I&#039;m glad King didn&#039;t let racism take his hope away.  I recorded both the republican and democratic conventions.  I promise you, Obama spells out his plan in more detail than McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie,<br />
I can appreciate you knowing some of your history, but the text books are not the same.<br />
This is where you and I disagree.  You vote according to track record.  MLK had no record when minorities put their trust in him.  The record was developed along the way and became history.  I don&#8217;t know much about John McCain, but the things I&#8217;ve seen have not convinced me that his so called experience is going to be any different than what we already have.  Obama worked down in the trenches to help whoever was there and wanted his help.  MLK worked in the ghettos and hoods to motivate minorites and let them know we should have a better life. I understand the democrats position during the King era along with the Kennedy factor.  I understand that black people voted republican for many years (in the blind). The reason I say your mind is closed, is you say &#8220;Hope doesn&#8217;t do anything&#8221;.  Black people had hope when we didn&#8217;t have the right to vote.  We didn&#8217;t have to ask anyone to give it to us.  If it wasn&#8217;t for MLK having Hope, this opportunity for Obama would not be possible. I&#8217;m glad King didn&#8217;t let racism take his hope away.  I recorded both the republican and democratic conventions.  I promise you, Obama spells out his plan in more detail than McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: ms dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimmie give me your out put on this

what do you think about the statement that was made at the vets for freedom rally when the gentleman was introducing mccain and made the statement yall have Tiger Woods we have Mccain and Mccain walks up to the podium cheezing hard
do you think that was a racist statement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmie give me your out put on this</p>
<p>what do you think about the statement that was made at the vets for freedom rally when the gentleman was introducing mccain and made the statement yall have Tiger Woods we have Mccain and Mccain walks up to the podium cheezing hard<br />
do you think that was a racist statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, you really don&#039;t know a darned thing about John McCain if you think he&#039;s a follower of the &quot;old ways&quot; of politics. He not nicknamed &quot;Maverick&quot; because he really likes the movie &quot;Top Gun&quot;. 

And what of Obama&#039;s old ways? What policies has he put forth that aren&#039;t rehashed quasi-socialist claptrap from the 1960s or 1970s or Fabian utopianism that was bad before World War II?

It&#039;s not enough for either candidate to say &quot;Change!&quot;. They have to have some track record for it. I disagree strongly with John McCain on many issues and have no been shy about saying so here. But at least he&#039;s acted on the mantra. 

As for your contention that I focused on Obama&#039;s ability to speak, I was responding to the comment above on McCain&#039;s speechmaking and his authenticity. Okay, so Obama makes folks believe. In what? Hope? Hope doesn&#039;t do anything. Hope is passive. Change? Change to what? Change in what direction? He&#039;s not even begun to answer those questions yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, you really don&#8217;t know a darned thing about John McCain if you think he&#8217;s a follower of the &#8220;old ways&#8221; of politics. He not nicknamed &#8220;Maverick&#8221; because he really likes the movie &#8220;Top Gun&#8221;. </p>
<p>And what of Obama&#8217;s old ways? What policies has he put forth that aren&#8217;t rehashed quasi-socialist claptrap from the 1960s or 1970s or Fabian utopianism that was bad before World War II?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough for either candidate to say &#8220;Change!&#8221;. They have to have some track record for it. I disagree strongly with John McCain on many issues and have no been shy about saying so here. But at least he&#8217;s acted on the mantra. </p>
<p>As for your contention that I focused on Obama&#8217;s ability to speak, I was responding to the comment above on McCain&#8217;s speechmaking and his authenticity. Okay, so Obama makes folks believe. In what? Hope? Hope doesn&#8217;t do anything. Hope is passive. Change? Change to what? Change in what direction? He&#8217;s not even begun to answer those questions yet.</p>
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		<title>By: ms dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie 

I got the same feeling Rod is descibing re the racism in the air at the rnc and I am a white female whom was undecided until a couple of days ago and definately last night I did not feel his sincerity at all I should not be able to tell you are reading from a telepromp every word to me it wasnt from the heart and thats what I felt from the dnc sincerity in everyone whom spoke.
for me it was the mood the smerks I was emabarrased as a white women</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie </p>
<p>I got the same feeling Rod is descibing re the racism in the air at the rnc and I am a white female whom was undecided until a couple of days ago and definately last night I did not feel his sincerity at all I should not be able to tell you are reading from a telepromp every word to me it wasnt from the heart and thats what I felt from the dnc sincerity in everyone whom spoke.<br />
for me it was the mood the smerks I was emabarrased as a white women</p>
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