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> <channel><title>Comments on: McCain to Obama: Oh, Now It&#8217;s On Rookie!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:45:33 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: lloydrmc</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665549</link> <dc:creator>lloydrmc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665549</guid> <description>Hey &quot;fostert&quot;, McCain was acquitted of all charges in the Keating 5, and his testimony helped convict Keating.  The other four of the five, including the one that was convicted of criminal charges, were Democrats.
So just who was it that cost the taxpayers all these alleged &quot;millions&quot;?
And the investigation of William Jefferson (D-LA), who sidetracked Katrina relief resources (two trucks because the first one got stuck, and ultimately, a helicopter), for taking HUGE bribes, are ongoing.
As for the whether the &quot;Rezko ploy&quot; will work or not, that&#039;s fairly irrelevant, if for no other reason than the McCain campaign has finally decided to open up a can of whoop-you-know-what on Senator Obama.
After over seven years of no response to President Bush being attacked in every way possible, including your utter canard about his education, comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, foreknowledge of 9/11, complicity in 9/11; this is frankly music to my ears, and doubtless millions of other Republicans.
At any rate, sll that has to happen is that Senator Obama&#039;s shiny armor get tarnished a bit, and people might be able to see him for what he is.
Besides, there are few candidates with more fund-raising irregularity baggage of their own than the Clintons, so that would automatically take the sting out of any such attack by a Clinton on someone else.  Senator McCain has no such baggage.
As a registered Republican, I would try to explain that elitism is about attitudes, not economics, but I don&#039;t feel like wasting my time.  The bottom line is that the elite think they&#039;re better then us poor, unwashed proles, simply because they are them and we are us (as it were).
If you need more detail than that, read Laura Ingraham&#039;s book: &quot;Shut Up and Sing&quot;
Heck, read the very first line, that tells you all you need to know about &quot;elitism&quot;.
As for: &quot;...normal people don&#8217;t barley squeak by at the Naval Academy...&quot;
How utterly ironic.  My guess is that Senator McCain, as undistinguished as his academic career may have been, could spell &quot;barely&quot;.
And &quot;normal people&quot; aren&#039;t carrier pilots, for that matter.
Besides, &quot;A&quot; students teach, and &quot;B&quot; students work for &quot;C&quot; students.
Speaking of distinguished, Senator Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and was also a Professor at the University of Chicago for five years.  In all that time, he was published in academic journals, etc., just as many times as I have ever been (ZERO!!).
At least Senator McCain didn&#039;t flat out LIE about his academic standing.  Today, I heard a sound clip of Senator Biden claiming to have finished in the top half of his law school class, with three undergrad degrees, having attended on a full, academic scholarship.  The problem is he was ranked 74 out of 79, his scholarship was needs-based, and he had only one undergrad degree.
Oops.  His explanation?  He tends to &quot;exaggerate&quot; when he&#039;s angry.
Sounds JUST LIKE the kind of guy I want one heartbeat away from the Presidency!
BTW, while Senator Obama was allegedly &quot;living on foodstamps&quot;, he was also going to a very elite prep school.
As for &quot;our president being a prime example&quot; of getting an elite degree he didn&#039;t deserve, that is pure, unadulterated, utter HOGWASH!!  NO ONE gets such dispensation at the Harvard MBA school (and I DEFY you to produce even the SLIGHTEST SHRED of evidence to the contrary).
On the contrary, they regularly serve their bottom 10% with ultimata - improve or you&#039;re out.  And if they don&#039;t improve, they DO get kicked out.
How in the world is it that a Harvard MBA has the cachet that it has - by giving them out to anyone that can bribe them sufficiently?  Give me a break!
Besides, Bush 41 was special envoy to China at the time, do you honestly mean to tell us that the blue-bloods at Harvard would have been at all impressed by that?
Going to your example, just where is the building at Harvard that that funded by the Bush family? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &quot;fostert&quot;, McCain was acquitted of all charges in the Keating 5, and his testimony helped convict Keating.  The other four of the five, including the one that was convicted of criminal charges, were Democrats.</p><p>So just who was it that cost the taxpayers all these alleged &quot;millions&quot;?</p><p>And the investigation of William Jefferson (D-LA), who sidetracked Katrina relief resources (two trucks because the first one got stuck, and ultimately, a helicopter), for taking HUGE bribes, are ongoing.</p><p>As for the whether the &quot;Rezko ploy&quot; will work or not, that&#039;s fairly irrelevant, if for no other reason than the McCain campaign has finally decided to open up a can of whoop-you-know-what on Senator Obama.</p><p>After over seven years of no response to President Bush being attacked in every way possible, including your utter canard about his education, comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, foreknowledge of 9/11, complicity in 9/11; this is frankly music to my ears, and doubtless millions of other Republicans.</p><p>At any rate, sll that has to happen is that Senator Obama&#039;s shiny armor get tarnished a bit, and people might be able to see him for what he is.</p><p>Besides, there are few candidates with more fund-raising irregularity baggage of their own than the Clintons, so that would automatically take the sting out of any such attack by a Clinton on someone else.  Senator McCain has no such baggage.</p><p>As a registered Republican, I would try to explain that elitism is about attitudes, not economics, but I don&#039;t feel like wasting my time.  The bottom line is that the elite think they&#039;re better then us poor, unwashed proles, simply because they are them and we are us (as it were).</p><p>If you need more detail than that, read Laura Ingraham&#039;s book: &quot;Shut Up and Sing&quot;</p><p>Heck, read the very first line, that tells you all you need to know about &quot;elitism&quot;.</p><p>As for: &quot;&#8230;normal people don&rsquo;t barley squeak by at the Naval Academy&#8230;&quot;</p><p>How utterly ironic.  My guess is that Senator McCain, as undistinguished as his academic career may have been, could spell &quot;barely&quot;.</p><p>And &quot;normal people&quot; aren&#039;t carrier pilots, for that matter.</p><p>Besides, &quot;A&quot; students teach, and &quot;B&quot; students work for &quot;C&quot; students.</p><p>Speaking of distinguished, Senator Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and was also a Professor at the University of Chicago for five years.  In all that time, he was published in academic journals, etc., just as many times as I have ever been (ZERO!!).</p><p>At least Senator McCain didn&#039;t flat out LIE about his academic standing.  Today, I heard a sound clip of Senator Biden claiming to have finished in the top half of his law school class, with three undergrad degrees, having attended on a full, academic scholarship.  The problem is he was ranked 74 out of 79, his scholarship was needs-based, and he had only one undergrad degree.</p><p>Oops.  His explanation?  He tends to &quot;exaggerate&quot; when he&#039;s angry.</p><p>Sounds JUST LIKE the kind of guy I want one heartbeat away from the Presidency!</p><p>BTW, while Senator Obama was allegedly &quot;living on foodstamps&quot;, he was also going to a very elite prep school.</p><p>As for &quot;our president being a prime example&quot; of getting an elite degree he didn&#039;t deserve, that is pure, unadulterated, utter HOGWASH!!  NO ONE gets such dispensation at the Harvard MBA school (and I DEFY you to produce even the SLIGHTEST SHRED of evidence to the contrary).</p><p>On the contrary, they regularly serve their bottom 10% with ultimata &#8211; improve or you&#039;re out.  And if they don&#039;t improve, they DO get kicked out.</p><p>How in the world is it that a Harvard MBA has the cachet that it has &#8211; by giving them out to anyone that can bribe them sufficiently?  Give me a break!</p><p>Besides, Bush 41 was special envoy to China at the time, do you honestly mean to tell us that the blue-bloods at Harvard would have been at all impressed by that?</p><p>Going to your example, just where is the building at Harvard that that funded by the Bush family?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665305</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:44:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665305</guid> <description>On the subject of universities, I&#039;ll add another point of contention: the &quot;Gentleman&#039;s C.&quot;  The idea that certain people will have their failing grades turned into C&#039;s because daddy&#039;s famous or donated a building is really appalling.  And the worst offenders are in the Ivy League.  Yeah, Yale, I&#039;m talking about you.  What makes this even worse is that some people will get an elite degree when they would have failed out of a regular school.  Our president is a prime example of this, and Michelle Obama probably is too.  To it&#039;s credit, Cornell doesn&#039;t have this policy.  A good friend of mine almost failed out and took six years to scrape through.  And his family had donated two very large buildings to Cornell.  They don&#039;t care if you&#039;re Jesus, they&#039;ll give you an &#039;F&#039; if that&#039;s what you deserve.  They&#039;ll even fail out a top notch hockey player.  Yes, donating a building will get you into Cornell, but it won&#039;t get you through it.  They&#039;re happy to cash your tuition check and fail your ass out.  And they&#039;re even happier to accept a free building and fail you out.  Harvard and Yale can&#039;t say that, unfortunately. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of universities, I&#039;ll add another point of contention: the &quot;Gentleman&#039;s C.&quot;  The idea that certain people will have their failing grades turned into C&#039;s because daddy&#039;s famous or donated a building is really appalling.  And the worst offenders are in the Ivy League.  Yeah, Yale, I&#039;m talking about you.  What makes this even worse is that some people will get an elite degree when they would have failed out of a regular school.  Our president is a prime example of this, and Michelle Obama probably is too.  To it&#039;s credit, Cornell doesn&#039;t have this policy.  A good friend of mine almost failed out and took six years to scrape through.  And his family had donated two very large buildings to Cornell.  They don&#039;t care if you&#039;re Jesus, they&#039;ll give you an &#039;F&#039; if that&#039;s what you deserve.  They&#039;ll even fail out a top notch hockey player.  Yes, donating a building will get you into Cornell, but it won&#039;t get you through it.  They&#039;re happy to cash your tuition check and fail your ass out.  And they&#039;re even happier to accept a free building and fail you out.  Harvard and Yale can&#039;t say that, unfortunately.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665238</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665238</guid> <description>&quot;Though I will ask you if you think that what happened with McCain wasn&#8217;t that different from what happens at most every college thanks to legacy admissions.&quot;
It isn&#039;t, and I totally oppose legacy admissions.  And it&#039;s somewhat of a touchy subject for me.  I got my acceptance letter from Cornell earlier than my friends who got early acceptance.  Both of my parents graduated from Cornell, and that&#039;s why the letter arrived so quickly.  But here&#039;s the thing: my SATs were considerably higher than most Cornell students, and my grades were too.  I graduated in the 80th percentile of a degree program that was not only the most difficult at Cornell, it was the most difficult in the United States (A&amp;EP).  Did I deserve to go to Cornell?  Absolutely.  Would I have gotten into Cornell if I were a lesser student?  Absolutely, and that&#039;s a problem.  But I wouldn&#039;t have graduated if I wasn&#039;t qualified.  Cornell is a school that fails out most of their students (legacies included), and I had to be excellent to survive.  And survive, I did.  In fact, I excelled.  And MIT can kiss my ass for accepting me too late.  With apologies to my sister and two uncles, of course.  I&#039;m sure they got a good education there. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Though I will ask you if you think that what happened with McCain wasn&rsquo;t that different from what happens at most every college thanks to legacy admissions.&quot;</p><p>It isn&#039;t, and I totally oppose legacy admissions.  And it&#039;s somewhat of a touchy subject for me.  I got my acceptance letter from Cornell earlier than my friends who got early acceptance.  Both of my parents graduated from Cornell, and that&#039;s why the letter arrived so quickly.  But here&#039;s the thing: my SATs were considerably higher than most Cornell students, and my grades were too.  I graduated in the 80th percentile of a degree program that was not only the most difficult at Cornell, it was the most difficult in the United States (A&amp;EP).  Did I deserve to go to Cornell?  Absolutely.  Would I have gotten into Cornell if I were a lesser student?  Absolutely, and that&#039;s a problem.  But I wouldn&#039;t have graduated if I wasn&#039;t qualified.  Cornell is a school that fails out most of their students (legacies included), and I had to be excellent to survive.  And survive, I did.  In fact, I excelled.  And MIT can kiss my ass for accepting me too late.  With apologies to my sister and two uncles, of course.  I&#039;m sure they got a good education there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665235</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665235</guid> <description>&quot;Yet it&#8217;s his father he openly embraces in speeches as opposed to the grandparents to took him in and loved him and raised him.&quot;
You now, you have to love your father even if he&#039;s an asshole.  I was lucky, my father was a great man (yeah, he was an alcoholic, but he was still great).  But I know plenty of people who can&#039;t say that.  And they still love their fathers.  There&#039;s a good reason that we have the phrase &quot;blood is thicker than water.&quot;  And it&#039;s not just the viscosity measurements.  Obama gets a pass on this. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yet it&rsquo;s his father he openly embraces in speeches as opposed to the grandparents to took him in and loved him and raised him.&quot;</p><p>You now, you have to love your father even if he&#039;s an asshole.  I was lucky, my father was a great man (yeah, he was an alcoholic, but he was still great).  But I know plenty of people who can&#039;t say that.  And they still love their fathers.  There&#039;s a good reason that we have the phrase &quot;blood is thicker than water.&quot;  And it&#039;s not just the viscosity measurements.  Obama gets a pass on this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665153</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:52:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665153</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;John McCain spent 5 years living like a real person, and the rest of his life living in undeserved luxury. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Which five years were those? And what does &quot;undeserved&quot; mean as you used it? Obama lived the childhood he lived because his father was a no-good bigamist who abandoned him. Yet it&#039;s his father he openly embraces in speeches as opposed to the grandparents to took him in and loved him and raised him. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John McCain spent 5 years living like a real person, and the rest of his life living in undeserved luxury.</p></blockquote><p>Which five years were those? And what does &quot;undeserved&quot; mean as you used it? Obama lived the childhood he lived because his father was a no-good bigamist who abandoned him. Yet it&#039;s his father he openly embraces in speeches as opposed to the grandparents to took him in and loved him and raised him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665152</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:50:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665152</guid> <description>I don&#039;t have a problem with that point of contention. It&#039;s similar, in a way, to my contention that Michelle Obama attended Harvard despite not being qualified to do so, at least by her own admission. I think that such things ought to be entirely merit-based. The academies need to ease up on their Congressional approval requirements.
Though I will ask you if you think that what happened with McCain wasn&#039;t that different from what happens at most every college thanks to legacy admissions. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t have a problem with that point of contention. It&#039;s similar, in a way, to my contention that Michelle Obama attended Harvard despite not being qualified to do so, at least by her own admission. I think that such things ought to be entirely merit-based. The academies need to ease up on their Congressional approval requirements.</p><p>Though I will ask you if you think that what happened with McCain wasn&#039;t that different from what happens at most every college thanks to legacy admissions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fostert</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665086</link> <dc:creator>fostert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665086</guid> <description>I&#039;m going to lay out a point of contention I have with McCain.  He got into the Naval Academy because daddy was an admiral.  His grades would normally have prevented that.  And his behavior there would have gotten him thrown out quickly had his daddy not been an admiral.  I tried to apply to that same Naval Academy.  I had the grades and physical condition.  And my SAT&#039;s were easily good enough for the Ivy League.  But I couldn&#039;t even apply because I needed a recommendation from my Republican congressman.  My mother was a known Democrat, so I was rejected immediately.  And he even wrote me a letter saying exactly that.  I deserved to attend the Naval Academy, and John McCain didn&#039;t.  But politics always trumps national security, doesn&#039;t it? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m going to lay out a point of contention I have with McCain.  He got into the Naval Academy because daddy was an admiral.  His grades would normally have prevented that.  And his behavior there would have gotten him thrown out quickly had his daddy not been an admiral.  I tried to apply to that same Naval Academy.  I had the grades and physical condition.  And my SAT&#039;s were easily good enough for the Ivy League.  But I couldn&#039;t even apply because I needed a recommendation from my Republican congressman.  My mother was a known Democrat, so I was rejected immediately.  And he even wrote me a letter saying exactly that.  I deserved to attend the Naval Academy, and John McCain didn&#039;t.  But politics always trumps national security, doesn&#039;t it?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ditto head</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/21/mccain-to-obama-oh-now-its-on-rookie/comment-page-1/#comment-665066</link> <dc:creator>Ditto head</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:43:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5384#comment-665066</guid> <description>Dear Jimmmie,(if you are the author)
Terrific,  right on assessment. The Nobama Advisors are as stupid as the defrocked candidate himself: allowing him to &#039;attack&quot; McCain on a misstatement about who owns his properties when the Messiah has baggage in that department that would give Republicans fodder for years to come.  And the Dems should have known better than to nominate an unvetted scoundrel like B. Hussein who gives &quot;skeletons in the closet&quot; a whole new meaning. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jimmmie,(if you are the author)</p><p> Terrific,  right on assessment. The Nobama Advisors are as stupid as the defrocked candidate himself: allowing him to &#039;attack&quot; McCain on a misstatement about who owns his properties when the Messiah has baggage in that department that would give Republicans fodder for years to come.  And the Dems should have known better than to nominate an unvetted scoundrel like B. Hussein who gives &quot;skeletons in the closet&quot; a whole new meaning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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