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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Russian Bear is Roaring Again</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:45:33 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Gordon Fowkes</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/comment-page-1/#comment-664959</link> <dc:creator>Gordon Fowkes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:22:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5200#comment-664959</guid> <description>A Russian &quot;counter-attack&quot; to protect Ossetians could have been done solely by regular Russian forces, and they would have been responsive to Kremlin control.
This operation bears a strong relationship to the Serbian ethnic cleansing operations by the use of ill-discipined and over armed irregulars whose tactics are also reminiscent of the Kansas Jayhawkers and Bushwackers of Bleeding Kansas.
In addition, appeals were made to raise Cossack forces to assist Mother Russia in the manner of the Romanovs in expanding Russian hegemony in centuries past.  This is also a way to ingratiate the Cossacks to the New Russia after the ill treatment the Soviets gave to the Cossacks for supporting the Whites during the Civil War and the Germans during WW 2.
Likewise, appeals were made to the Chechnyans for similar reasons.
As a result, we find the Russian forces operating with little effective Kremlin control.  Russians open and close checkpoints, leave and reenter cities to destroy Georgian infrastructure as if they were in Germany in 1945.
More than one military organization has run away with the war in teeth to garner gains not anticipated, often opposed by the government:
The Japanese incident at the Marco Polo bridge was done against orders as was the attack on the USS Panay in China in the Thirties.  Colonel John C Fremont took a detour from surveying the Arkansas River to stir up Anglos in California resulting in the Bear Flag.  Dewey attacked the Spanish in Manila Bay on the orders of the Asst Secy of the Navy, Theodore Roosevelt.
The incidents in Georgia are more in keeping with Tsarist Russian than Soviet Russia. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Russian &quot;counter-attack&quot; to protect Ossetians could have been done solely by regular Russian forces, and they would have been responsive to Kremlin control.</p><p>This operation bears a strong relationship to the Serbian ethnic cleansing operations by the use of ill-discipined and over armed irregulars whose tactics are also reminiscent of the Kansas Jayhawkers and Bushwackers of Bleeding Kansas.</p><p>In addition, appeals were made to raise Cossack forces to assist Mother Russia in the manner of the Romanovs in expanding Russian hegemony in centuries past.  This is also a way to ingratiate the Cossacks to the New Russia after the ill treatment the Soviets gave to the Cossacks for supporting the Whites during the Civil War and the Germans during WW 2.</p><p>Likewise, appeals were made to the Chechnyans for similar reasons.</p><p>As a result, we find the Russian forces operating with little effective Kremlin control.  Russians open and close checkpoints, leave and reenter cities to destroy Georgian infrastructure as if they were in Germany in 1945.</p><p>More than one military organization has run away with the war in teeth to garner gains not anticipated, often opposed by the government:</p><p>The Japanese incident at the Marco Polo bridge was done against orders as was the attack on the USS Panay in China in the Thirties.  Colonel John C Fremont took a detour from surveying the Arkansas River to stir up Anglos in California resulting in the Bear Flag.  Dewey attacked the Spanish in Manila Bay on the orders of the Asst Secy of the Navy, Theodore Roosevelt.</p><p>The incidents in Georgia are more in keeping with Tsarist Russian than Soviet Russia.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Should We Do In The Russia v Georgia Conflict?</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/comment-page-1/#comment-663961</link> <dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Should We Do In The Russia v Georgia Conflict?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:56:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5200#comment-663961</guid> <description>[...] Jimmie has a good take on the situation that led to the fighting.  One  glaringly obvious goal?  The removal of a democratically elected government that is too friendly with the west and not nearly servile enough to Russia. (U.S. UN Ambassador Zalmay) Khalilzad disclosed during a U.N. Security Council session that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had told U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sunday morning &#8220;that a democratically elected president of Georgia — and I quote — must go.&#8221; [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jimmie has a good take on the situation that led to the fighting.  One  glaringly obvious goal?  The removal of a democratically elected government that is too friendly with the west and not nearly servile enough to Russia. (U.S. UN Ambassador Zalmay) Khalilzad disclosed during a U.N. Security Council session that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had told U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sunday morning &#8220;that a democratically elected president of Georgia — and I quote — must go.&#8221; [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Is Georgia in 2008 like Hungary in 1956?</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/comment-page-1/#comment-663949</link> <dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Is Georgia in 2008 like Hungary in 1956?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:27:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5200#comment-663949</guid> <description>[...] by See-Dubya.} Some more good points here at the Sundries Shack and at Ace&#8217;s. Oh, and once again, Tom Clancy&#8217;s writing&#8230;well, a Clancy-branded [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by See-Dubya.} Some more good points here at the Sundries Shack and at Ace&#8217;s. Oh, and once again, Tom Clancy&#8217;s writing&#8230;well, a Clancy-branded [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mikhail</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/08/09/the-russian-bear-is-roaring-again/comment-page-1/#comment-663791</link> <dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=5200#comment-663791</guid> <description>Please stop genocide of Ocetian nation!
Starting 1989 nationalistic fascist Georgian government tries to annihilate and expel Ocetian nation from its territory. As the result of Georgian warfare against small nations, tens thousands of Ocetian, Abhasian, Armenian and Russian people died since 1991. The scale of genocide is concealed by Georgian mass media. Brutality of Georgian fascists and freaksville torture of the local population overrode the torture of fascists during the Second World War.
Georgian mass media stir up the sickness of Georgian nation &#8211; they believe they are only people deserving life on Georgian territory, they are exclusive, elitist; other nations should move out or be killed.
At the moment the tragedy is happening &#8211; Georgians systematically shooting dead the Ocetian people in their own houses or burying under the falling homes.
Georgian fascists destroyed Ocetian settlements and town Tskhinvally &#8211; they lay even with the ground.
The number of victims buried by Georgian fire under the ruins cannot be calculated &#8211; it is amounted to thousands.
Georgians destroyed all hospitals. Medics cannot work under the fire of Georgians. People saved in underground stores do not have food, water, electricity, gas for 3 days &#8211; they cannot go out because of Georgian fire and cannot move out of town because Georgians are trying to take hold with tanks and armored vehicles of the only road from the town to tunnel controlled by Russians.
At that Georgian president insincerely is saying that he tries to make constitutional order and peace, and suggesting lefthandedly to cease fire. All his actions are aimed towards USA and NATO (he even speaks with his nation in English so that you understand him).
USA has strategic interest in region &#8211; pipeline going through Georgia. So official government of USA will never realize that Georgian president is criminal politician betrayed its nation (in fact people in Georgia do not want war), instead government of USA will support him (several hours ago a train with NATO armored machines came to Georgia).
The next victim of Georgian fascists will be Abhasian nation.
People in USA and Europe please force your politicians to stop Georgians. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop genocide of Ocetian nation!</p><p>Starting 1989 nationalistic fascist Georgian government tries to annihilate and expel Ocetian nation from its territory. As the result of Georgian warfare against small nations, tens thousands of Ocetian, Abhasian, Armenian and Russian people died since 1991. The scale of genocide is concealed by Georgian mass media. Brutality of Georgian fascists and freaksville torture of the local population overrode the torture of fascists during the Second World War.</p><p>Georgian mass media stir up the sickness of Georgian nation &ndash; they believe they are only people deserving life on Georgian territory, they are exclusive, elitist; other nations should move out or be killed.</p><p>At the moment the tragedy is happening &ndash; Georgians systematically shooting dead the Ocetian people in their own houses or burying under the falling homes.</p><p>Georgian fascists destroyed Ocetian settlements and town Tskhinvally &ndash; they lay even with the ground.</p><p>The number of victims buried by Georgian fire under the ruins cannot be calculated &ndash; it is amounted to thousands.</p><p>Georgians destroyed all hospitals. Medics cannot work under the fire of Georgians. People saved in underground stores do not have food, water, electricity, gas for 3 days &ndash; they cannot go out because of Georgian fire and cannot move out of town because Georgians are trying to take hold with tanks and armored vehicles of the only road from the town to tunnel controlled by Russians.</p><p>At that Georgian president insincerely is saying that he tries to make constitutional order and peace, and suggesting lefthandedly to cease fire. All his actions are aimed towards USA and NATO (he even speaks with his nation in English so that you understand him).</p><p>USA has strategic interest in region &ndash; pipeline going through Georgia. So official government of USA will never realize that Georgian president is criminal politician betrayed its nation (in fact people in Georgia do not want war), instead government of USA will support him (several hours ago a train with NATO armored machines came to Georgia).</p><p>The next victim of Georgian fascists will be Abhasian nation.</p><p>People in USA and Europe please force your politicians to stop Georgians.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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