Comments on: …With A Capital “T” that Rhymes with “P” that Stands for PUMA! http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:08:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gina http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-662482 Gina Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:27:29 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-662482 THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED ... 1. Contrary to what Obamabots say ... Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat, when the DNC pressured Hillary into not only conceding, but campaigning for Obama. 2. Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now with McCain, even though Obamabots act like Obama has already won (like they did in the primaries against Hillary). So, this means that half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans (3/4 of America) dIdn't want Obama. Plus, he didn't even win the popular vote, and refused a revote in Michigan and Florida. 3. Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and he won state legislature and Senator by disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned experience, or votes. 4. Obama's one claim to fame is being a community organizer, where he boasts of registering voters. Then he took their votes away from them, by disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior to the election. 5. Obama's mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American racist ... not to mention other unsavory associations. 6. Obama is simply buying the election, since he's good at fund raising ... hardly a qualification to be President of the United States. 7. The media never vetted Obama, and they are giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the print and air time as McCain, as they did against Hillary. 8. 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is black, while the campaign gained ground by accusing most opponents of racism. 9. Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters. 10. Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party ... especially a party that did not represent them, and a party which highjacked the nomination for Obama. THE PUMAS ARE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED …

1. Contrary to what Obamabots say …

Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat,

when the DNC pressured Hillary into not

only conceding, but campaigning for Obama.

2. Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now

with McCain, even though Obamabots act like

Obama has already won (like they did in the

primaries against Hillary). So, this means that

half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans

(3/4 of America) dIdn't want Obama. Plus, he

didn't even win the popular vote, and refused a

revote in Michigan and Florida.

3. Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and

he won state legislature and Senator by

disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned

experience, or votes.

4. Obama's one claim to fame is being a community

organizer, where he boasts of registering voters.

Then he took their votes away from them, by

disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior

to the election.

5. Obama's mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American

racist … not to mention other unsavory associations.

6. Obama is simply buying the election, since he's

good at fund raising … hardly a qualification to be

President of the United States.

7. The media never vetted Obama, and they are

giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the

print and air time as McCain, as they did against

Hillary.

8. 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is

black, while the campaign gained ground by

accusing most opponents of racism.

9. Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic

towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters.

10. Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party …

especially a party that did not represent them, and a party

which highjacked the nomination for Obama.

]]> By: Rotwang http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-662061 Rotwang Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:29:31 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-662061 Alas, were Hillary to somehow take the nomination in Denver, she'll only have two months to woo back a significant bloc of disaffected Obama supporters, who are likely to be as moody and intractable as the PUMAs. Worse, it will hand the GOP a golden opportunity to paint the Dems as a party in disarray, panicked, fractious and desperately switching its candidate at the last minute. The public spectacle of shitcanning the much- ballyhooed presumptive candidate who drew swooning crowds, toured the Middle East and met with Europe's heads of state would become THE story of the general election, and a humiliation for the party that Hillary would have to carry, however bravely, to certain defeat. Alas, were Hillary to somehow take the nomination in Denver, she'll only have two months to woo back a significant bloc of disaffected Obama supporters, who are likely to be as moody and intractable as the PUMAs. Worse, it will hand the GOP a golden opportunity to paint the Dems as a party in disarray, panicked, fractious and desperately switching its candidate at the last minute. The public spectacle of shitcanning the much- ballyhooed presumptive candidate who drew swooning crowds, toured the Middle East and met with Europe's heads of state would become THE story of the general election, and a humiliation for the party that Hillary would have to carry, however bravely, to certain defeat.

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]]> By: Jimmie http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-661968 Jimmie Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:17:02 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-661968 I think it's the nature of blogs sometimes that we all come in to it expecting a certain amount of confrontation. Sometimes that's not bad. I don't mind so much if there's a lot of blue on blue "stole the election" fallout. I think it would have the effect of showing the general public what a dysfunctional and oftentimes venomous nature lies in the heart of today's Democratic party. In the end, that would be good for Democrats as well, because it could well mean that more reasonable Democrats would have some firm support for purging the more traditionally progressive elements from among them. That would be a positive development for everyone. I think it's the nature of blogs sometimes that we all come in to it expecting a certain amount of confrontation. Sometimes that's not bad.

I don't mind so much if there's a lot of blue on blue "stole the election" fallout. I think it would have the effect of showing the general public what a dysfunctional and oftentimes venomous nature lies in the heart of today's Democratic party. In the end, that would be good for Democrats as well, because it could well mean that more reasonable Democrats would have some firm support for purging the more traditionally progressive elements from among them. That would be a positive development for everyone.

]]> By: martin http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-661966 martin Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:49:22 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-661966 The perceived amount of "Stole the election" would be larger than anything we have seen in modern times. Much of it would not even be invalid. I agree it is more than just the old white women I stated earlier but there would be larger fall out for the dems than just the African-Americans for this election cycle. A large group of Obama's Elites and anti-war people would also fail to show up for Hillary. My main point is I think "Stealing" the election from Obama would have more far reaching fallout for the Democratic party that you do. I hope they do it. Besides I would prefer Hillary as President to Obama anyway. She is a known quantity with known ways to oppose her legislatively. Obama will be much harder to deal with on that front. Why do I end up arguing with you when I feel like I mostly agree with you? Anyway keep up the good work. The perceived amount of "Stole the election" would be larger than anything we have seen in modern times. Much of it would not even be invalid.

I agree it is more than just the old white women I stated earlier but there would be larger fall out for the dems than just the African-Americans for this election cycle. A large group of Obama's Elites and anti-war people would also fail to show up for Hillary.

My main point is I think "Stealing" the election from Obama would have more far reaching fallout for the Democratic party that you do. I hope they do it.

Besides I would prefer Hillary as President to Obama anyway. She is a known quantity with known ways to oppose her legislatively. Obama will be much harder to deal with on that front.

Why do I end up arguing with you when I feel like I mostly agree with you? Anyway keep up the good work.

]]> By: Jimmie http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-661963 Jimmie Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:06:57 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-661963 Maybe, martin, but I really don't know. Blacks in the Democratic Party have pretty much gotten used to being an assumed part of the block of interests that form the party core. If there is some sort of ginormous turmoil at the convention and Obama doesn't win the nomination, there'll be some fuss but I expect that the Clinton folks have already considered that and are ready to co-opt the most vocal in the group to bring them into the fold. Maybe, martin, but I really don't know. Blacks in the Democratic Party have pretty much gotten used to being an assumed part of the block of interests that form the party core.

If there is some sort of ginormous turmoil at the convention and Obama doesn't win the nomination, there'll be some fuss but I expect that the Clinton folks have already considered that and are ready to co-opt the most vocal in the group to bring them into the fold.

]]> By: DiamondTiger http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-661957 DiamondTiger Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:21:59 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-661957 Martin, I respectfully disagree with your opinion. The MSM and DNC want everyone to believe this is just the "old, white women" block. It isn't - it's everybody else. Men, asians, latinos...etc. Look at all the states that Clinton won after super tuesday without the "black" vote and how much she won that those states by. As for MI and FL, Obama blocked revotes in those states - what does that say? Martin,

I respectfully disagree with your opinion. The MSM and DNC want everyone to believe this is just the "old, white women" block. It isn't – it's everybody else. Men, asians, latinos…etc.

Look at all the states that Clinton won after super tuesday without the "black" vote and how much she won that those states by.

As for MI and FL, Obama blocked revotes in those states – what does that say?

]]> By: martin http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/07/20/with-a-capital-t-that-rhymes-with-p-that-stands-for-puma/comment-page-1/#comment-661954 martin Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:54:47 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4915#comment-661954 I'm going to have to disagree with DiamondTiger about Hillary's chances if nominated. If she is nominated now the African-American vote is going to be "depressed" (as in non-existent). With out 70%-80% of that vote no Democrat will win. That dynamic was already in place when Obama became the defacto nominee. I think the largest part of the "super" delegates have looked at this problem and determined that once lost the African-American vote as a near solid block could be gone forever, whereas the old white women vote is already somewhat fractured and most of the democratic part will come back. I'm going to have to disagree with DiamondTiger about Hillary's chances if nominated. If she is nominated now the African-American vote is going to be "depressed" (as in non-existent). With out 70%-80% of that vote no Democrat will win. That dynamic was already in place when Obama became the defacto nominee. I think the largest part of the "super" delegates have looked at this problem and determined that once lost the African-American vote as a near solid block could be gone forever, whereas the old white women vote is already somewhat fractured and most of the democratic part will come back.

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