Comments on: 550 Tons of Some Unknown Material that is Most Definitely, Absolutely, Positively Not Yellowcake Uranium Just Arrived in Canada from Iraq.

By: timb

timb — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:04:50 +0000

Strange thing then when the White House apologized for including it, George Tenet (in his book) maintained his agency took it out of drafts twice and Condi blames Libby and Addington for lying to her.

Since you don't know that, it might exclude YOU from intelligent conversation on the subject.

Fortunately, you were previously excluded when you posted twice (in less than three days) about what a genius Jeff Goldstein is. Right thinking people on every corner of the globe are aware how big of a tool Goldstein and his impotent rage is. Your lack of discernment with regards to Mr. Jeff might explain how you have internalized Bush's mis-statements and Hannity's lies.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:53:44 +0000

timb – The fact that you maintain the President lied in the SotU despite that Joseph Wilson himself proved he did not is enough to disqualify you from intelligent conversation on the topic.

By: timb

timb — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:20:10 +0000

Wow, a blog linking to Goldstein's wacky funhouse maintains the existence of yellowcake (without centrifuge tubes or the facilities to process it) means two things: 1) Bush was right to invade, because apparently Saddam and friends were going to shake that uranium like a martini to process it magically; and 2) counter-intuitively, that Saddam had this stuff to blow up the USA, but was still trying to buy it from Niger.

Either he had and it was being processed or he was attempting to buy new stuff to be unprocessed.

Outside of conservatives living in 2003, what this actually does is highlight how much the "President" lied in the State of Union, as EVERYONE not on the far right, was well aware Saddam already yellowcake he couldn't use and didn't need any more.

I don't fault you, Jimmie for wanting it to be 2003 or 2004. But pace yourself, for the next 15-20 years you will need to bask in the warm glow of your salad days.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:21:26 +0000

I aqree that it's less costly. It's clear that the sanctions were going to be lifted much sooner rather than later, though. There were a lot of rumblings that were being taken very seriously. As it happens, most of the folks behind the rumblings were getting money and oil from Hussein.

By: ChenZhen

ChenZhen — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:08:20 +0000

Well, I've never seen a good reason why the sanctions and inspections couldn't have worked indefinitely. Its a heck of a lot less costly than a war.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:21:47 +0000

No, he had one a lot later than that. The Dulfer report addressed that. We can argue about how much a program he had, but there's no much of a serious question about whether he had one or not. We know in the late 1990s he was inquiring about buying uranium from Niger, which makes no real sense if he didn't have at least some program.

And, really, how long do you think those barrels of uranium would have stayed where they were once he got the sanctions lifted? He was bold enough to violate the cease-fire for years and to use Oil for Food money to bribe his way out of the sanctions. How long do you think it would have taken for him to break those seals?

By: ChenZhen

ChenZhen — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:56:46 +0000

Yea, he did. In the 80's. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the reason we invaded either.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:28:54 +0000

He did have a program. The yellowcake seems to be proof of that, unless he just like having a big pile of nuclear precursor material.

But it's not new news that he had such a program, is it?