Comments on: The United States of…Obama?

By: Put That Seal On Ebay, I Guess « ChenZhen’s Chamber

Put That Seal On Ebay, I Guess « ChenZhen’s Chamber — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:23:03 +0000

[...] initial reaction, I left at Jimmie’s site: Obama is running for president. The blue seal is an advertising/PR gimmick, playing on the design [...]

By: tillerylakelady

tillerylakelady — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:30:58 +0000

Obama had only 146 days in office as a new senator. Democrats think that he is a uniter. A uniter of whom? As a 20 year member of a Anti- American church,ran by racist pastors,friends to Anti-Capital Leftists,married to a woman who is proud of her country only for the first time, and not willing to allow oil drilling right here right now. Whats wrong here? I am a registered Democrate but Obama scares me. No I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:24:02 +0000

Because his theories are hardly discredited, man. We've successfully used them here. The Wealth of Nations is still a valuable book to read. I'm not quite sure where you've seen otherwise.

Conservatives haven't run the economy for quite a while. But when we have, it's always been very strong. See Reagan and Kennedy for instructive examples.

By: fostert

fostert — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:51:06 +0000

Oh, and John Nash left Adam Smith in the dust long before you were even born. Why you would cling to the obviously discredited theories of Smith is beyond me. But I will grant you this: it is true that many conservatives still cling hopelessly to Smith's theories. That's why they're so bad at managing the economy.

By: fostert

fostert — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:42:12 +0000

"Indeed, the general taxation struggle between conservatives and progressives is the essential battle between Smith and Keynes."

No it's not. On taxation issues, Democrats basically accept Laffer's theories while Republicans have moved on to the more comfortable tales told by the Tax Fairy. Republicans now accept the notion that lowering taxes ALWAYS increases revenues. Arthur Laffer demonstrated that such a notion is wrong. Again, Mr Laffer made me become a Republican, and then he made me become a Democrat. It all depends on which side of the curve we're on. Now that we're on the left side of the curve, Republicans strongly reject Laffer's ideas. And the Democrats now embrace them. It's too bad that neither party has the nerve to genuinely accept theories unless they tell them what they want to hear.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:02:07 +0000

Chen, I'm leery of anyone invoking that particular symbol, married to a set of policies that's a very small hop to the resurgence of what that symbol stood for.

By: Jimmie

Jimmie — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:01:16 +0000

I think you're really stretching economic theory, tom. Keynes and Smith overarching theories are still used today. Indeed, the general taxation struggle between conservatives and progressives is the essential battle between Smith and Keynes. My own take is that Keynes' method is seriously flawed, but it's still used quite a lot today.

And yes, Russia's government was, at heart, very fascist. Communism isn't a political structure. It's an economic system. Marxism, Nazism, and Italian Fascism are all branches of the same government control tree.

By: ChenZhen

ChenZhen — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:24:54 +0000

OMG Jimmie this is quite a stretch. I mean, of course Obama was flirting with that blue eagle (even though it looks completely different), and not these blue eagles or, what the heck, even these. Obama is running for president. The blue seal is an advertising/PR gimmick, playing on the design of the presidential seal. Panties need not be twisted.