Comments on: Okay, Barack. You Want to Meet with Mad Mahmoud? Do It this Week. http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/05/31/okay-barack-you-want-to-meet-with-mad-mahmoud-do-it-this-week/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Thu, 24 May 2012 15:12:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: spootshttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/05/31/okay-barack-you-want-to-meet-with-mad-mahmoud-do-it-this-week/comment-page-1/#comment-652649 spoots Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:55:53 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4586#comment-652649 "It’s called ignorance, spoots." Surely no more ignorant than McCain who, for all his vaunted visits, still didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia. "Barack Oama [sic] has yet to meet with the elected government of Iraq in any way. He has yet to meet with the commander..." You seriously don't think that US Senators get the relevant freaking memos? Prez candidates have foreign policy advisors who do most of the leg-work. "You are right, spoots." I know that. "He wasn’t there to listen to progress. He was there to ask how soon troops could be brought home." He could have just as well asked how soon from home. You have a really nasty habit of talking out of your ass. Unless you have a copy of his itinerary and calender, and notes from his meetings, you should probably STFU. "It’s called ignorance, spoots."

Surely no more ignorant than McCain who, for all his vaunted visits, still didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia.

"Barack Oama [sic] has yet to meet with the elected government of Iraq in any way. He has yet to meet with the commander…"

You seriously don't think that US Senators get the relevant freaking memos? Prez candidates have foreign policy advisors who do most of the leg-work.

"You are right, spoots."

I know that.

"He wasn’t there to listen to progress. He was there to ask how soon troops could be brought home."

He could have just as well asked how soon from home. You have a really nasty habit of talking out of your ass. Unless you have a copy of his itinerary and calender, and notes from his meetings, you should probably STFU.

]]> By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/05/31/okay-barack-you-want-to-meet-with-mad-mahmoud-do-it-this-week/comment-page-1/#comment-652419 Jimmie Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:39:39 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4586#comment-652419 It's called ignorance, spoots. Barack Oama has yet to meet with the elected government of Iraq in any way. He has yet to meet with the commander who everyone with half a brain, Democrats included, says is making measurable and serious progress there. You are right, spoots. He was there for three days. He wasn't there to listen to progress. He was there to ask how soon troops could be brought home. That's not leadership. That's leading the question and it's a piss-poor quality in a leader. It's called ignorance, spoots.

Barack Oama has yet to meet with the elected government of Iraq in any way. He has yet to meet with the commander who everyone with half a brain, Democrats included, says is making measurable and serious progress there.

You are right, spoots. He was there for three days. He wasn't there to listen to progress. He was there to ask how soon troops could be brought home. That's not leadership. That's leading the question and it's a piss-poor quality in a leader.

]]> By: spootshttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/05/31/okay-barack-you-want-to-meet-with-mad-mahmoud-do-it-this-week/comment-page-1/#comment-652414 spoots Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:14:48 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4586#comment-652414 "Barack Obama has yet to visit Iraq." Yes, he did, you big, fat liar. In 2006. And when Bush first went there, all he did was carve a fake turkey: <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2001806972_bushturkey04.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/20...</a> McCain (and the Right wing blogosphere) is trying to make it seem like just visiting implies the ability to make good decisions, which has not been the case for him, sadly. Decision makers can make decisions without putting their boots on the ground for long, it's called delegation. "Barack Obama has yet to visit Iraq."

Yes, he did, you big, fat liar. In 2006.

And when Bush first went there, all he did was carve a fake turkey:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/20…
McCain (and the Right wing blogosphere) is trying to make it seem like just visiting implies the ability to make good decisions, which has not been the case for him, sadly. Decision makers can make decisions without putting their boots on the ground for long, it's called delegation.

]]> By: fosterthttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/05/31/okay-barack-you-want-to-meet-with-mad-mahmoud-do-it-this-week/comment-page-1/#comment-651451 fostert Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:44:33 +0000 http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4586#comment-651451 Well that's just silly. It would wildly inappropriate for a candidate to attempt to conduct foreign policy. Besides, Ahmadinejad isn't exactly the person to meet with. Many have suggested that Khamenei would be the appropriate person to talk to, but that's a pipe dream. The Ayatollah rarely speaks to non-Muslims. And no president of the United States would be considered holy enough to talk to him. Either the president or foreign minister would handle the affair. But by July of next year, there will be a new president. Ahmadinejad is one of the few world leaders with a lower popularity than George Bush. To put it in perspective, Mugabe is more popular. I'm guessing he'd still beat out Than Shwe, but not by much. The smart move would be to make the Iranian elections about relations with the United States. With a moderate president and Rafsanjani's control of the Expediency Council and the Assembly of Experts, I think we could see some positive changes in Iran and an opening of relations. Now I know you can dig up crazy quotes from Rafsanjani, but understand that he's a chameleon. He has voiced every political position possible in Iran, and some that aren't. But he's a greedy bastard (and Iran's richest person), he'll agree to anything he can profit from. As for the moderate president, it will be one of Rafsanjani's candidates. Well that's just silly. It would wildly inappropriate for a candidate to attempt to conduct foreign policy. Besides, Ahmadinejad isn't exactly the person to meet with. Many have suggested that Khamenei would be the appropriate person to talk to, but that's a pipe dream. The Ayatollah rarely speaks to non-Muslims. And no president of the United States would be considered holy enough to talk to him. Either the president or foreign minister would handle the affair. But by July of next year, there will be a new president. Ahmadinejad is one of the few world leaders with a lower popularity than George Bush. To put it in perspective, Mugabe is more popular. I'm guessing he'd still beat out Than Shwe, but not by much. The smart move would be to make the Iranian elections about relations with the United States. With a moderate president and Rafsanjani's control of the Expediency Council and the Assembly of Experts, I think we could see some positive changes in Iran and an opening of relations. Now I know you can dig up crazy quotes from Rafsanjani, but understand that he's a chameleon. He has voiced every political position possible in Iran, and some that aren't. But he's a greedy bastard (and Iran's richest person), he'll agree to anything he can profit from. As for the moderate president, it will be one of Rafsanjani's candidates.

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