Now the idiot Israeli ambassador insults a US President and calls him a "bigot" and not a single media outlet or so-called US politicians has the balls to stand up for their own American who is simply trying EVERY AVENUE to bring peace.

Home of the brave my ass, since 1973 his has become home of the poodles when it comes to foreign policy and our stupid one-way policy has led us to these problems. We have nothing to gain but everything to lose continuing on this path.

I’ve see you pushing Jonah Goldberg’s “liberal fascism” thesis many times here. It mangled the definition of fascism and was a dismal failure everywhere but the conservative echo chamber.

You are kidding, right? Number One on Amazon? Number One on the NYT bestseller list? That's the "conservative echo chamber"? The book's gone to multiple printings, which means that more people than you suspect are buying it.

As for mangling the definition, I've heard his definition and I've seen the outlines of yours. His comes complete with verifiable facts and a trail of logic you can follow. Yours comes with neither. Forgive me for not buying your definition.

And lay off the BOLD, eh? What you say isn’t that noteworthy.

I didn't bold it because it was noteworthy you tard…I was obviously trying to distinguish between your lengthy post & mine…..at the time, bold & italics were the only ones I knew how to do.

“The thing that disgusts me most about liberals is whenever their guy doesn’t get elected, they seem to believe that obstruction is a perfectly acceptable form of dissent…it isn’t.”

That can’t be the thing that disgusts you most, because it never happens.

“I want you to consider for a moment how you would feel if former Pres. and “private citizen” George Bush travels “on his own dime” to Israel to encourage the govt. to bomb the snot out of Iran??”

It sure wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

Are you planning to construct any arguments beyond “yes it is” and “no it isn't”?? Because, if not, I'm going to stop wasting my time.

” And, I didn’t even use the word “fascist” here so I don’t know why you are squealing about that.”

As is clear in context, I was addressing Jimmie.

You said this right under one of my sentences so it was not really that clear. What is clear is you don't seem to understand what it means at all.

“please explain to me what is so “Iron Curtain” and “reprehensible” about private citizens discussing what we believe ought to be against the law (if it is not already) and what we believe ought to be the penalty for breaking such a law?”

Because it is solely based on free speech that you don’t happen to agree with.

Okay, this doesn't even make sense. You should try having a coherent conversation.

Alister: “Spoots, your alias and yourself both are complete cretins, shut your mouth until you actually grow up and have some kind of clue.”

Why, aren’t you a knowledgeable and witty foe with formidable rhetorical skills!

At least he had the sense not to spend too much time on you.

I've see you pushing Jonah Goldberg's "liberal fascism" thesis many times here. It mangled the definition of fascism and was a dismal failure everywhere but the conservative echo chamber.

"you’re working awfully darned hard on Carter’s behalf."

Not especially. Merely pointing out the obvious to the clueless.

"He’s there because he believes he can help Hamas."

He's there because he wants a resolution to the Palestinian-Israeli issue. It may be a fool's errand, but no harm will come from it.

"He is acting as its advocate."

That does not jibe with the comments he has made that spank Hamas.

spoots: "He’s not representing the US gov’t."

Lori: "Oh yes he is….he cannot go to another country & not be known as the former POTUS."

If they can't tell the difference between former and current presidents, Hamas is in more trouble than any of us thought. Repeat after me: Carter is NOT representing the US gov't. And lay off the BOLD, eh? What you say isn't that noteworthy.

"The thing that disgusts me most about liberals is whenever their guy doesn’t get elected, they seem to believe that obstruction is a perfectly acceptable form of dissent…it isn’t."

That can't be the thing that disgusts you most, because it never happens.

"I want you to consider for a moment how you would feel if former Pres. and “private citizen” George Bush travels “on his own dime” to Israel to encourage the govt. to bomb the snot out of Iran??"

It sure wouldn't surprise me a bit.

"Contempt for the constitution & executive power seems to only afflict the left."

You are a laff riot!

" And, I didn’t even use the word “fascist” here so I don’t know why you are squealing about that."

As is clear in context, I was addressing Jimmie.

"please explain to me what is so “Iron Curtain” and “reprehensible” about private citizens discussing what we believe ought to be against the law (if it is not already) and what we believe ought to be the penalty for breaking such a law?"

Because it is solely based on free speech that you don't happen to agree with.

Alister: "Spoots, your alias and yourself both are complete cretins, shut your mouth until you actually grow up and have some kind of clue."

Why, aren't you a knowledgeable and witty foe with formidable rhetorical skills!

As for your fascism comment, well, it's simply to silly for me to address. That you made it in the context of my comments proves that you know far less than you think you do.

That wasn’t quite what I was referring to. Rather, your support for the idea of yanking his passport struck me as very *Iron Curtain*. I’m sure Carter knows the laws involved. If he has run afoul of any of them, then I’m sure he’s prepared to pay the price. But your citizens’ posse to shut him up and stop him from doing what he is otherwise allowed to do is reprehensible. I was gonna say “fascist”, but unlike you I know what that really means.

And, I didn't even use the word "fascist" here so I don't know why you are squealing about that. But if you are so keen on definitions, please explain to me what is so “Iron Curtain” and “reprehensible” about private citizens discussing what we believe ought to be against the law (if it is not already) and what we believe ought to be the penalty for breaking such a law? If I wanted the government to increase the penalty for parking tickets, would it be too “Iron Curtain” for me to say so? And if I'm not allowed to discuss these things, wouldn't that be…..fascism?