Giuliani: If I Had to Rely on Socialized Health Care, I'd Probably Be Dead Today
Rudy Giuliani is is taking on the socialists.
I had prostate cancer, five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer, and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States, 82%. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England, only 44% under socialized medicine.
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We have the best health care system in the world. We just have to make it better.
As it turns out, Giuliani’s numbers show the disparty as wider than Britain’s National Health Service had reported. The gap at the time was only about eight percent. It’s changed quite a bit since then (see the numbers after the jump) and America still leads the world. There is some commentary from elsewhere after the jump for your voting edification as well.
Hot Air links to a study based on work done by Lancet Oncology that shows that cancer survival rates in the US beats survival rates in such health care paradises as Europe, England, and Canada. In most categories, the comparison isn’t very close at all.
Don Surber introduces us to a tidbit from Medscape that shows the same thing. the United States beats Europe handily when it comes to surviving cancer. Says Surber, in a wonderfully arch commentary:
A 99.3% survival rate for prostate cancer in the U.S. 90.1% for breast cancer. Got that? This isn’t Europe where we pinch pennies and rely on the Nanny State to take care of us.
For those of you who have a couple would-be socialists in your offices, here are a few stats from the Hot Air link to take with you.
- American women have a 63 percent chance of living at least five years after a cancer diagnosis, compared to 56 percent for European women.
- American men have a five-year survival rate of 66 percent — compared to only 47 percent for European men.
- Among European countries, only Sweden has an overall survival rate for men of more than 60 percent.
- For women, only three European countries (Sweden, Belgium and Switzerland) have an overall survival rate of more than 60 percent
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These figures reflect the care available to all Americans, not just those with private health coverage…British men have a five-year survival rate of only 45 percent; women, only 53 percent.
How about Canada, Michael Moore’s Health Care Xanadu?
- For women, the average survival rate for all cancers is 61 percent in the United States, compared to 58 percent in Canada.
- For men, the average survival rate for all cancers is 57 percent in the United States, compared to 53 percent in Canada.
It’s been an article of faith among Universal Health Care enthusiasts that a socialized health care system will lead to greater preventative care. They have that in Europe, but it’s not going so well.
- In the United States, 85 percent of women aged 25 to 64 years have regular PAP smears, compared with 58 percent in Great Britain.
- The same is true for mammograms; in the United States, 84 percent of women aged 50 to 64 years get them regularly — a higher percentage than in Australia, Canada or New Zealand, and far higher than the 63 percent of British women.
Doesn’t look like the socialists are offering us such a good deal, no matter how shiny they try to make their old, broken-down system, does it?
Category: Health Care Craziness








[...] you look at the numbers in the study I mentioned in my last post, you’ll see how patently ridiculous this assertion really is. Let’s go back and look at [...]
You seem to be missing the point of socialised healthcare. In the UK, we don't just treat the people who live in nice, big houses and have enough moeny to fork out when they fall ill, we treat EVERYONE. Everyone is created equally, right? So why, in your system, are only some people entitled to be kept alive? Sure, here we may not have as good a survival rate, but that's because we give everyone the same chance as everyone else. The right to live isn't something you should have to pay money for.
I can see your point about the survival rates being higher, but at the end of the day, do you want everyone to have same chance to survive, or only the people who can pay for it…?
Muzz, you have a mistaken view of America. Here, everyone who needs medical care gets it. Furthermore, everyone who wants timely routine medical care can also have it if they believe it's worth their effort to have. You can, as they say, look it up.