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> <channel><title>Comments on: Let&#8217;s Not Fall for the Propaganda</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:10:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: An Experiment in Pleasantness. : The Sundries Shack</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-512372</link> <dc:creator>An Experiment in Pleasantness. : The Sundries Shack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-512372</guid> <description>[...] want to try a little experiment. Having endured the venomous and occasionally unhinged comments for this post, I&#8217;m interested in conducting a little experiment. It won&#8217;t take much time and all it [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] want to try a little experiment. Having endured the venomous and occasionally unhinged comments for this post, I&#8217;m interested in conducting a little experiment. It won&#8217;t take much time and all it [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DCC</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-512365</link> <dc:creator>DCC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:01:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-512365</guid> <description>Jimmie,
I haven&#039;t been to this blog before, and I don&#039;t know your age (though your writing makes me think you&#039;re on the young side), but most people over the age of 22 or so, whether they learned from parents or grandparents or general political discourse, realize that hating the president is as American as apple pie. Respecting a man by virtue of the office he holds is properly reserved for the subjects of kings. The president is only a man (or woman) who will occupy the office for at most 8 years. He as able to be evil and twisted as he is noble and honorable, though it&#039;s usually a combination. The appropriateness of respecting the office as delineated in the Constitution is no way equivalent to respecting its occupant, who will be praised or rebuked based on his actions in the office. Despising/hating a man whose actions are despicable in my eyes is no transgression against our country.
Despising our foundational law in the form of our Constitution: well, that&#039;s a different story, which is why our executive swears an oath to defend it.
This is why you&#039;ll hear over and over that we&#039;re a nation of laws not of men. It&#039;s time you gain the intellectual maturity to grasp and embrace that concept if you love America as much as you claim. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie,</p><p>I haven&#039;t been to this blog before, and I don&#039;t know your age (though your writing makes me think you&#039;re on the young side), but most people over the age of 22 or so, whether they learned from parents or grandparents or general political discourse, realize that hating the president is as American as apple pie. Respecting a man by virtue of the office he holds is properly reserved for the subjects of kings. The president is only a man (or woman) who will occupy the office for at most 8 years. He as able to be evil and twisted as he is noble and honorable, though it&#039;s usually a combination. The appropriateness of respecting the office as delineated in the Constitution is no way equivalent to respecting its occupant, who will be praised or rebuked based on his actions in the office. Despising/hating a man whose actions are despicable in my eyes is no transgression against our country.</p><p>Despising our foundational law in the form of our Constitution: well, that&#039;s a different story, which is why our executive swears an oath to defend it.</p><p>This is why you&#039;ll hear over and over that we&#039;re a nation of laws not of men. It&#039;s time you gain the intellectual maturity to grasp and embrace that concept if you love America as much as you claim.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hastingspete</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-512244</link> <dc:creator>hastingspete</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-512244</guid> <description>Utter nonsense from the &quot;love it or leave it&quot; school of knee-jerk thought.  We must support this president because.. because... because he&#039;s president? Ah. Got it.
When absolute and gross incompetence and mismanagement and deception for six years has left us despised world-wide and divided at home, there&#039;s precious little room to pony up to the Love Bar and declare allegiance to this disaster running the executive branch.  Since when does being a citizen mean I owe respect to a disaster of a leader? How does that make me a thinking citizen in a FREE country? You want me  to bow allegiance to a leader, well, I&#039;ll move to one of those communist countries you speak of.
But these truths you can&#039;t deny:
1)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with this President didn&#039;t lose this war. HE DID.
2)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with this President didn&#039;t make the rest of the world hate him. HE DID.
3)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with his president aren&#039;t traitors. They&#039;re patriots in a country where they have a RIGHT to their opinions.
At what point, precisely, do the twenty remaining supporters of this disaster finally acknowledge HIS culpability in the series of strategic disasters he has foisted on this country?  What will it take?  Why the blind loyalty? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utter nonsense from the &quot;love it or leave it&quot; school of knee-jerk thought.  We must support this president because.. because&#8230; because he&#039;s president? Ah. Got it.</p><p>When absolute and gross incompetence and mismanagement and deception for six years has left us despised world-wide and divided at home, there&#039;s precious little room to pony up to the Love Bar and declare allegiance to this disaster running the executive branch.  Since when does being a citizen mean I owe respect to a disaster of a leader? How does that make me a thinking citizen in a FREE country? You want me  to bow allegiance to a leader, well, I&#039;ll move to one of those communist countries you speak of.</p><p>But these truths you can&#039;t deny:</p><p>1)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with this President didn&#039;t lose this war. HE DID.</p><p>2)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with this President didn&#039;t make the rest of the world hate him. HE DID.</p><p>3)  Americans who don&#039;t agree with his president aren&#039;t traitors. They&#039;re patriots in a country where they have a RIGHT to their opinions.</p><p>At what point, precisely, do the twenty remaining supporters of this disaster finally acknowledge HIS culpability in the series of strategic disasters he has foisted on this country?  What will it take?  Why the blind loyalty?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: legaleagle</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-512107</link> <dc:creator>legaleagle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-512107</guid> <description>&quot;The office of President deserves a basic level of respect if for no other reason than the more than 200 years of tradition that line up behind it.&quot;
So I guess the 15-year-long outbreak of Clinton Derangement Syndrom is really just a sign of respect, huh?  Republicans still can&#039;t control their overwhelming crotch-sniffing habits when it comes to Clinton&#039;s groin, so I think we&#039;ll have to take their ludicrous instructions about respecting the office of the presidency with a grain of salt.
Nonetheless, I have to admit congratulations are in order: There&#039;s little question that this is, quite simply, the most egregiously stupid Republican propaganda site on the web. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The office of President deserves a basic level of respect if for no other reason than the more than 200 years of tradition that line up behind it.&quot;</p><p>So I guess the 15-year-long outbreak of Clinton Derangement Syndrom is really just a sign of respect, huh?  Republicans still can&#039;t control their overwhelming crotch-sniffing habits when it comes to Clinton&#039;s groin, so I think we&#039;ll have to take their ludicrous instructions about respecting the office of the presidency with a grain of salt.</p><p>Nonetheless, I have to admit congratulations are in order: There&#039;s little question that this is, quite simply, the most egregiously stupid Republican propaganda site on the web.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sirocco</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-512007</link> <dc:creator>Sirocco</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:35:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-512007</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry, but no one, including the President, should be respected &quot;for free&quot;. It&#039;s something which has to be earned.
This President has not earned my respent. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry, but no one, including the President, should be respected &quot;for free&quot;. It&#039;s something which has to be earned.</p><p>This President has not earned my respent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Mahablog &#187; Full Circle</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-511300</link> <dc:creator>The Mahablog &#187; Full Circle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:17:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-511300</guid> <description>[...] a whole bunch of right-wing blogs are linking to this with robust approval without noticing the essential un-Americanism of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a whole bunch of right-wing blogs are linking to this with robust approval without noticing the essential un-Americanism of [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gil</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-511479</link> <dc:creator>gil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:26:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-511479</guid> <description>Jimmie.
&quot;The office of the President deserves a basic level of respect&quot;.
Really? Then what happened on the Clinton years, where the overwhelming majority of Republicans denigrated the hell out of the man???
Or in other words why don&#039;t you Republicans practice what you preach?
Because you are hypocrits maibe? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie.</p><p>&quot;The office of the President deserves a basic level of respect&quot;.</p><p>Really? Then what happened on the Clinton years, where the overwhelming majority of Republicans denigrated the hell out of the man???</p><p>Or in other words why don&#039;t you Republicans practice what you preach?</p><p>Because you are hypocrits maibe?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gil</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/08/07/lets-not-fall-for-the-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-511473</link> <dc:creator>gil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=3269#comment-511473</guid> <description>Jimmie.
Only in blogs like this one we can still find people like you saying with a straight face that this one is not Bush&#039;s war.
The resolution that Congress voted on was on the request from Bush. CONGRESS DID NOT PROPOSE ANITHING. The President asked Congress to vote on a resolution to give him the power and the confidence to use any means necessary to disarm Saddam  The idea was to present a united front in the UNited Nations and seek their approval. Now we know the absolutely wrong intelligence that he had, and now we know that Congress was simply lied to, and the United Nations never went along with any war.
The American peopple supporting Bush have changed their minds as all intelligent people can and do..... You should try it too. What do you expect, zombies like you that can&#039;t see reality, and change their minds as they see the reality changing in a world that changes all the time.
Grow up. That&#039;s life... Life is about change.
And as far as me respecting Bush... Last I checked a leader has to earn the respect of the people. In the case of Bush the guy has earned ANITHING BUT.
As for my ignorance.... I tell you what, point out where I made a mistake in my remarks and then I&#039;ll give you the point, but if you can&#039;t then.... I say you are just a loud mouth. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie.</p><p>Only in blogs like this one we can still find people like you saying with a straight face that this one is not Bush&#039;s war.</p><p>The resolution that Congress voted on was on the request from Bush. CONGRESS DID NOT PROPOSE ANITHING. The President asked Congress to vote on a resolution to give him the power and the confidence to use any means necessary to disarm Saddam  The idea was to present a united front in the UNited Nations and seek their approval. Now we know the absolutely wrong intelligence that he had, and now we know that Congress was simply lied to, and the United Nations never went along with any war.</p><p>The American peopple supporting Bush have changed their minds as all intelligent people can and do&#8230;.. You should try it too. What do you expect, zombies like you that can&#039;t see reality, and change their minds as they see the reality changing in a world that changes all the time.</p><p>Grow up. That&#039;s life&#8230; Life is about change.</p><p>And as far as me respecting Bush&#8230; Last I checked a leader has to earn the respect of the people. In the case of Bush the guy has earned ANITHING BUT.</p><p>As for my ignorance&#8230;. I tell you what, point out where I made a mistake in my remarks and then I&#039;ll give you the point, but if you can&#039;t then&#8230;. I say you are just a loud mouth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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