Let’s Not Fall for the Propaganda
There’s no doubt that we’re being spun by our enemies. There’s no doubt that the rabid hatred for President Bush is doing us a lot of damage, not only here but also around the world. Much of that hatred is plainly manufactured simply to gain a few extra votes and a couple years more at the Congressional trough. It’s good, though, to hear these facts confirmed by a man who was in the business of instigating that hate.. He’s the highest ranking member of a Communist country every to defect to the West and he deserves our attention. His close:
Now we are again at war. It is not the president’s war. It is America’s war, authorized by 296 House members and 76 senators. I do not intend to join the armchair experts on the Iraq war. I do not know how we should handle this war, and they don’t know either. But I do know that if America’s political leaders, Democrat and Republican, join together as they did during World War II, America will win. Otherwise, terrorism will win. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi predicted just before being killed: “We fight today in Iraq, tomorrow in the land of the Holy Places, and after there in the West.”
On July 28, I celebrated 29 years since President Carter signed off on my request for political asylum, and I am still tremendously proud that the leader of the Free World granted me my freedom. During these years I have lived here under five presidents–some better than others–but I have always felt that I was living in paradise. My American citizenship has given me a feeling of pride, hope and security that is surpassed only by the joy of simply being alive. There are millions of other immigrants who are equally proud that they restarted their lives from scratch in order to be in this magnanimous country. I appeal to them to help keep our beloved America united and honorable. We may not be able to change the habits of our current political representatives, but we may be able to introduce healthy new blood into the U.S. Congress.
For once, the communists got it right. It is America’s leader that counts. Let’s return to the traditions of presidents who accepted nothing short of unconditional surrender from our deadly enemies. Let’s vote next year for people who believe in America’s future, not for the ones who live in the Cold War past.
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Category: The Long War Here At Home
There is no doubt that there is a Fifth Column in the USA which no longer reflects a foreign ideology, merely a self-hating bolus of treason seeking to justify its past wrong-headedness.
The degenerates on the fever-swamp fringe of the ultra-left now are suddenly activated and believe they can do a Hail Mary pass that will drag the US into the fever-bogs the EU is stuck in. Even a centrist DLC publication like the New Republic isn't immune. A young PFC decided treason was the route to the top by publishing fake atrocity stories about Iraq in TNR.
And Let’s remember that the new Managing Editor of TNR, Franklin Foer, is the degenerate spawn of one of the farthest left “historians” on the fake-history bash-the-USA academicide front. Papa Foer has won many historical prizes for consistently unmaksing the evils in America, especially during the Reconstruction, and still presides at Columbia U., where “left” means “centrist” and “centrists” don’t exist. Foer hates America as much as his Daddy did. Peretz should fire Franklin Foer's ass, before more hate-America spew stains TNR.
Evil Poppa begets evil son who enables evil chronicler. Just connect the dots. No fault on the left, as Mark Rudd told me decades ago when I was a deluded SDS volunteer. He smoked my dope & left me with the advice, "Dare to cheat, dare to win." Could be Columbia U's motto! At least when CSJ hands out Pulitzers!
Can you imagine what kind of mischief the Foers of the left will inflict on American policy if the Kossacks carry the field?
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I do not hate America. I love our belief in the rule of law, the dignity of the individual and our "can do" national spirit. However, I am not blind to the fact that we do not always trust the rule of law – sometimes we resort to lynching and torture; we do not always exalt the dignity of the individual – sometimes we deny people because they act or look different from us; and our "can do" attitude fails to pay attention to (and the taxes for) the upkeep of bridges.
I do not hate America but I have very little affection for George Bush and his policies.
"Let’s vote next year for people who believe in America’s future, not for the ones who live in the Cold War past."
Absolutely. Let's not vote for the party that, having had to face that the cold war was over, invented the "Global War on Terror" and then went to the wrong country to fight it.
Saddam had nothing at all to do with 9/11 and there was no Al Quaida in Iraq until we created the opportunity for it. But that doesn't matter, does it? We've already won according to all of the originally stated objectives. Saddam has been tried and executed, there's a democratically elected government and there never were any WMDs. So why are we still over there? The Iraqis have chosen their leaders, it's now on them to either work together to form a stable democracy or stumble back into a dictatorship. We did our job.
Osama Bin Laden planned and executed the largest mass murder in modern history. Bush elevated his status from criminal to "warrior" 3 days later. I've been a "warrior" that piss me off. He's not a "warrior" and declaring war on a tactic was a losing proposition from the start. And after almost 6 years this evil SOB is still at large and everybody knows where.
So what is your problem with pulling our of a war that we've already won and leaving a free people to decide their own fate. And then what is your problem with going into a country that has been supporting terrorism for as long as it has been a country and has sold nuclear technology to our enemies and getting the evil criminal mastermind who killed 3000 Americans?
I'm going to suggest here that your attitude toward both Bush and Obama is even more rabid and even less based upon the circumstance as you choose to state them than those of the "Bush haters" you keep inventing.
You're right! I would love to vote for a party who believes in America's future. I would love vote for a party that would fix the budget deficit, rebuild the manufacturing sector, start us growing our own food again and reinvest in our infrastructure and educational system. In short, do what we need to do to regain our place as the worlds economic and technological super power. But we can't do that while we're fighting completely discretionary wars, letting the real bad guy get away and spending more on our military than the rest of the world combined.
What's so bad about propoganda?
It helped gain support for the Iraq War.
If youy are against propoganda, get out of politics or the war starting business.
daveinboca,
More than the Kagans?
Nevertheless, George W. Bush took the helm in a way unprecedented since Pearl Harbor on 9/11 and when it came to weapons of mass distruction, smoking clouds, torture, illegal wiretips on American citizens this administration has demanded "trust us!" If the tide of public opinion has turned against him, it is because he has lied to us, used our trust against us, but MOST importantly, he has FAILED US at ever turn. There is no need for propoganda against him. He is his own worst enemy and has disgraced the office of President.
Really guys, help me out here. How has the President done anything out of the ordinary for a nation at war. By any measure, President Bush has moved with great hesitance and sensitivity compared to the other times we were in a war of this scale. He's not overstepped the bounds set by the last administration when it comes to wiretapping. He's acted in concert with an existing cease-fire, the combined intelligence assessments of a dozen nations and the UN, a unanimous UN resolution, and an overwhelming authorization to use force granted by congress. You can accuse him of lying, but, really, to accuse him of fooling the whole world strains credulity.
And, please, don't bring that "he made up the War on Terror" crap to my blog. That's a statement so juvenile and nonsensical that anyone capable of spending five minutes with an internet search engine could prove you wrong. Have some respect for me and yourself, would you?
Wow, all I have to do is unite with the GOP and George and his army of sycophant Christian jihadist will stop mismanaging the war, stop pouring billions into the bank accounts of the useless private contractors and rip off artist they call friends. All I have to do is realize that Trent Lott has this countries best interest at heart and Sunnis will fall in love with Shiites and the US backed Iraqi government will find it’s way out of dysfunction? If only I could find it in my heart to accept the views of Brownback and Paul then the attack on a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 will yield the defeat of those who did? My bad, I’m scratching a check to Fred Thompson’s campaign right now.
Okay…take ibfamous' comment as the edge of what I'm willing to tolerate here today. More of that and I'm closing the thread, folks. I appreciate that you visit but I'm going to have to insist that if you do contribute, it be something rational.
There’s no doubt that the rabid hatred for President Bush is doing us a lot of damage, not only here but also around the world. Much of that hatred is plainly manufactured simply to gain a few extra votes and a couple years more at the Congressional trough.
Your president is hated for his behaviors and actions. It has nothing to do with 'the man' – just his actions. To be clear, +/- 70% of the PLANET wonder why YOU cheerlead for this imbecile – instead of honoring the constitution and the bill of rights. Why on earth would you go over a cliff for this man?
Listen Jimmie,
You start out with this Bush hating BS, then get upset when people explain why they think he's such a rotten leader.
I got to admit, I never thought I'd see someone lead the greatest military nation in the world into a 4-year standoff against a bunch of teenagers.
Well, at least his buddies are profiting.
Tom – Who, exactly, is going off a cliff for "this man"? Since when is defending the deposing of a genocidal dictator and giving 24 million people a real chance to choose their own political destiny a bad thing? Would you have opposed such a thing is someone of a different name or – and be honest here – a different part had done his own bit of unilateral warmongering (as happened about a decade ago)?
Why is it wrong to actually fight a war that has been waged against us for at laest ten years, if not longer? How is fighting back against people who swear at every opportunity to destroy or subjugate us an ill?
If you've read more of this blog than just this one post, you'll see that I have not always sided with the President. I have, at times, disagreed very sharply with what he's said or done. I still disagree strongly with him on several issues. But I don't hate him. I don't heap scorn on him. I don't wish him dead. I don't leap over the hysterical edge over anything he's done. He is the President of the United States, the dulyu-elected leader of the greatest nation on the face of the earth. That does not make him perfect by any stretch of the imagination and I certainly do not revere him as a god. But I fully respect his position. He is not simply a President, he is my President, even in 2000 when I didn't vote for him.
There is no doubt that the only reason George Bush is hated is because he is George Bush. In twenty years, when we compare his Presidency to others, I suspect that a lot of you guys on the left are going to be ashamed of what you've done these past six years. I suggest you take three or four deep breaths and just think. Look around at the matchless bounty you have and the unprecedented freedoms you enjoy and the prosperty never even imagined by our forefathers and be a little bit proud that you belong to such a nation, even though the man who heads it is not the man you chose. Be proud that our democracy can survive being headed by an imperfect human being and even more proud that it was specifically designed that way.
Good Lord, just get your heads up out of the Slough of Despond and exult a little in the compassion and generosity of your friends and neighbors – the folks who give of their own increase even to people who hate them and who want to see them dead. Just please, drop the hate.
(edited because I had a whole lot more to say)
A lot of flaws in this piece. Let's take a look at three:
"I spent decades scrutinizing the U.S. from Europe, and I learned that international respect for America is directly proportional to America's own respect for its president. " – Correlation is not the same as causation. More likely is that international and domestic support is in sync because both are responding to the same policies and quality of leadership.
"But in September 2002, a German cabinet minister, Herta Dauebler-Gmelin, had the nerve to compare Mr. Bush to Hitler." Um, back in Sept 2002, Bush enjoyed a very high 70% approval. If Pacepa's theory that international respect is tied in with domestic respect, why the negative view of Bush by international leaders back then?
"My father… had a picture of President Truman in our house in Bucharest. While "America" was a vague place somewhere thousands of miles away, he was her tangible symbol… We learned that America loved Truman, and we loved America. It was as simple as that."
Truman barely eked out his 48 election and had poll numbers in the 20s by 1951. His immense popularity didn't occur until AFTER his administration ended.
I'm sorry, but love Bush or hate him, this piece in the WSJ is utter nonsense.
In 20 years you won't be able to find anybody willing to admit they voted for W.
You still think Iraq was waging a War with us for 10 years?
Wow.
Let's change "In God We Trust" to something more American.
How about "Slow on the Uptake"?
Robert, really. You're being purposefully obtuse. Stop.
You haven't explained a darned thing. You've trotted our platitudes that I, personally, have debunked over and over again here and I've read debunked a hundred times or more elsewhere. Saying "because he's shredding the Constitution" is not a reason any more than saying "because he sends me bad dreams at night".
Jimmie,
If yopu think this is bad, you should have listened to Limbaugh, et al when Bill Clinton was our President.
Not very reverential as I remember it.
Note: I didn't like Clinton as President either.
Too Conservative for my tastes.
I remember that time, Robert. Limbaugh never called for the President's death as I've heard at least two of the most popular leftist media personalities do.
However, I am not Rush Limbaugh and neither are you. You're responsible for your own behavior, not anyone elses. I can't control what Rush or Olbermann or anyone else says (no matter how much some folks think I really want to). I can only control what I say just like you.
"There is no doubt that the only reason George Bush is hated is because he is George Bush."
Really? Are you saying there's just some weird magical aura that makes so many people hate him?
Listen, it's one thing to not agree with people who for hate Bush, quite another to say that he is only hated because of who he is.
Dear Blog.
Now that Republican Right WIngers have a mess in their hands…. All of the suden is not Bush's war, but AMERICA'S WAR!!!
Pardon me but is Mr. Bush not the President of the U.S. and therefore the LEADER of America. Was not Bush the one that asked for Congress to give him the authority to use force against Iraq????
The fact that Congress, and actually the majority of the American people supported BUSH'S LEADERSHIP, makes no difference as to who's idea was to invade Iraq over WMD's. His name is George W Bush, and his party is the Republican Party that gave him that majority in Congress you now claim represent "America".
Re-making history is not going to work. Nice try tough blog. The only people that buys your version of things is …. The same old Right WIng crowd that represent about 20%+ of America's population. The rest of us put Iraq' s mess squarely on Bush and the Right Wing Republican "policies", or delusional ideas take your pick.
It is America's War – all of it.
America's Congress voted overwhelmingly to depose Saddam Hussein. America voted by the first majority in three elections for Bush in the middle of the war.
Most importantly, this nation has one Commander-in-Chief. We are not two nations. We fought a war to ensure that we would not be tow nations. We spent the lives of hundreds of thousands of men to prevent what your ignorant "Bush's War" comment seeks to have happen. If you're going to talk secession, at least do it with some knowledge instead of this…I don't know what the heck it is you're shoveling.
Get it straight. You are an American. George Bush is your President. He deserves your respect. End of story.
Jimmie,
Can you point me to your takedowns of the clinton haters in the 90s?
If not, you're a hypocrite.
End of conversation.
"Get it straight. You are an American. George Bush is your President. He deserves your respect. End of story."
Where I come from, respect isn't handed out like blue ribbons at the Special Olympics, it is earned. I am the sole judge of who does and does not deserve my respect.
George W. Bush has done too little to earn mine. End of story.
That's nonsense. The office of President deserves a basic level of respect if for no other reason than the more than 200 years of tradition that line up behind it. You may despise the man like he slept with your daughter in your own bed, but his office commands enough respect that you don't accuse him of trying to kill more than 10,000 Americans in one morning just to put a few more bucks in his pocket. You don't accuse him of sending us to war for any of the cockamamie reasons I've heard since 2002. You give the man the basic decent assumption that he loves America every bit as much as you and that he's doing the best job he can consistent with his political views.
George Bush won two elections and leads the greatest nation this world has ever seen. If that doesn't merit at least a modicum of respect, then I'm afraid you have a deep personal problem.
And that's my last comment inn this thread on the matter. You guys enjoy that frission you get from ranking on George Bush. I'm tired of reading it.
Jimmie.
Only in blogs like this one we can still find people like you saying with a straight face that this one is not Bush's war.
The resolution that Congress voted on was on the request from Bush. CONGRESS DID NOT PROPOSE ANITHING. The President asked Congress to vote on a resolution to give him the power and the confidence to use any means necessary to disarm Saddam The idea was to present a united front in the UNited Nations and seek their approval. Now we know the absolutely wrong intelligence that he had, and now we know that Congress was simply lied to, and the United Nations never went along with any war.
The American peopple supporting Bush have changed their minds as all intelligent people can and do….. You should try it too. What do you expect, zombies like you that can't see reality, and change their minds as they see the reality changing in a world that changes all the time.
Grow up. That's life… Life is about change.
And as far as me respecting Bush… Last I checked a leader has to earn the respect of the people. In the case of Bush the guy has earned ANITHING BUT.
As for my ignorance…. I tell you what, point out where I made a mistake in my remarks and then I'll give you the point, but if you can't then…. I say you are just a loud mouth.
Jimmie.
"The office of the President deserves a basic level of respect".
Really? Then what happened on the Clinton years, where the overwhelming majority of Republicans denigrated the hell out of the man???
Or in other words why don't you Republicans practice what you preach?
Because you are hypocrits maibe?
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I'm sorry, but no one, including the President, should be respected "for free". It's something which has to be earned.
This President has not earned my respent.
"The office of President deserves a basic level of respect if for no other reason than the more than 200 years of tradition that line up behind it."
So I guess the 15-year-long outbreak of Clinton Derangement Syndrom is really just a sign of respect, huh? Republicans still can't control their overwhelming crotch-sniffing habits when it comes to Clinton's groin, so I think we'll have to take their ludicrous instructions about respecting the office of the presidency with a grain of salt.
Nonetheless, I have to admit congratulations are in order: There's little question that this is, quite simply, the most egregiously stupid Republican propaganda site on the web.
Utter nonsense from the "love it or leave it" school of knee-jerk thought. We must support this president because.. because… because he's president? Ah. Got it.
When absolute and gross incompetence and mismanagement and deception for six years has left us despised world-wide and divided at home, there's precious little room to pony up to the Love Bar and declare allegiance to this disaster running the executive branch. Since when does being a citizen mean I owe respect to a disaster of a leader? How does that make me a thinking citizen in a FREE country? You want me to bow allegiance to a leader, well, I'll move to one of those communist countries you speak of.
But these truths you can't deny:
1) Americans who don't agree with this President didn't lose this war. HE DID.
2) Americans who don't agree with this President didn't make the rest of the world hate him. HE DID.
3) Americans who don't agree with his president aren't traitors. They're patriots in a country where they have a RIGHT to their opinions.
At what point, precisely, do the twenty remaining supporters of this disaster finally acknowledge HIS culpability in the series of strategic disasters he has foisted on this country? What will it take? Why the blind loyalty?
Jimmie,
I haven't been to this blog before, and I don't know your age (though your writing makes me think you're on the young side), but most people over the age of 22 or so, whether they learned from parents or grandparents or general political discourse, realize that hating the president is as American as apple pie. Respecting a man by virtue of the office he holds is properly reserved for the subjects of kings. The president is only a man (or woman) who will occupy the office for at most 8 years. He as able to be evil and twisted as he is noble and honorable, though it's usually a combination. The appropriateness of respecting the office as delineated in the Constitution is no way equivalent to respecting its occupant, who will be praised or rebuked based on his actions in the office. Despising/hating a man whose actions are despicable in my eyes is no transgression against our country.
Despising our foundational law in the form of our Constitution: well, that's a different story, which is why our executive swears an oath to defend it.
This is why you'll hear over and over that we're a nation of laws not of men. It's time you gain the intellectual maturity to grasp and embrace that concept if you love America as much as you claim.
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