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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
		<link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict-is-in/comment-page-1/#comment-334515</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, you guys make me laugh really hard. The amount of stuff you&#039;re pulling out of your nether regions is astounding. I won&#039;t bother to rebut the factual errors in every post except to say that buy, when you leftists grab hold of a fable, you refuse to let it go. But...let me toss out a few things that you can, in your spare time, look up on your own.

1) The Iraq WMD intelligence did not belong solely to this administration. It also belonged to the last administration and a dozen other nations, as well as the UN. 

2) Bush&#039;s approval numbers mean exactly squat. He won the two contests that mattered, the last one with a record number of votes.

3) Bill Clinton was, in fact, found guilty of a crime. He was fined and lost his license to practice law because of it.

4) Valerie Plame was about as covert as I. She drove to work every day for years, using her own identity, to the CIA headquarters in Langley. She filed documents freely available to the public when she and her husband contributed to political campaigns, using as her employer a CIA shell company. She did this right out in the open where anyone with the Internet could find it.

5) Joseph Wilson&#039;s findings in Africa actually strengthened the administration&#039;s use of the claim by the British government, according to a Senate investigative committee. As well, the British stand by that claim to this very day and it has been supported strongly by their own public investigation.

More than that, folks, I can&#039;t do for you. The truth is right there in front of you. You can look it all up or not.

That&#039;s the last word in this thread on this subject. I&#039;m closing it to comments because, quite honestly. I&#039;m tired of repeating myself. If you want to continue, write your own posts on your own blogs and send trackbacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, you guys make me laugh really hard. The amount of stuff you&#8217;re pulling out of your nether regions is astounding. I won&#8217;t bother to rebut the factual errors in every post except to say that buy, when you leftists grab hold of a fable, you refuse to let it go. But&#8230;let me toss out a few things that you can, in your spare time, look up on your own.</p>
<p>1) The Iraq WMD intelligence did not belong solely to this administration. It also belonged to the last administration and a dozen other nations, as well as the UN. </p>
<p>2) Bush&#8217;s approval numbers mean exactly squat. He won the two contests that mattered, the last one with a record number of votes.</p>
<p>3) Bill Clinton was, in fact, found guilty of a crime. He was fined and lost his license to practice law because of it.</p>
<p>4) Valerie Plame was about as covert as I. She drove to work every day for years, using her own identity, to the CIA headquarters in Langley. She filed documents freely available to the public when she and her husband contributed to political campaigns, using as her employer a CIA shell company. She did this right out in the open where anyone with the Internet could find it.</p>
<p>5) Joseph Wilson&#8217;s findings in Africa actually strengthened the administration&#8217;s use of the claim by the British government, according to a Senate investigative committee. As well, the British stand by that claim to this very day and it has been supported strongly by their own public investigation.</p>
<p>More than that, folks, I can&#8217;t do for you. The truth is right there in front of you. You can look it all up or not.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the last word in this thread on this subject. I&#8217;m closing it to comments because, quite honestly. I&#8217;m tired of repeating myself. If you want to continue, write your own posts on your own blogs and send trackbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: David in AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if you rounded up a hundred Americans and asked them who Lewis Libby is or what, exactly, he did, you’d be lucky to get one correct answer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I wonder if that would be more or less than the number who know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.  So I guess that means you don&#039;t care about that, either?  Well, at least you&#039;re consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if you rounded up a hundred Americans and asked them who Lewis Libby is or what, exactly, he did, you’d be lucky to get one correct answer.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if that would be more or less than the number who know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.  So I guess that means you don&#8217;t care about that, either?  Well, at least you&#8217;re consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: bugaboo</title>
		<link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict-is-in/comment-page-1/#comment-334455</link>
		<dc:creator>bugaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, Jimmie, given that you have a link to Dembski, I guess you can&#039;t be convinced of anything you &#039;believe&#039; no matter how much truth and fact intrude into your world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, Jimmie, given that you have a link to Dembski, I guess you can&#8217;t be convinced of anything you &#8216;believe&#8217; no matter how much truth and fact intrude into your world.</p>
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		<title>By: bugaboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bugaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a commuter bus full of people of all political stripes who live more than hour outside the city knowing exactly who Plame was, and knew what the Libby trial was about?  We have 30-50 people on the bus for the ride home and it seems almost everyone had a comment.  So, let&#039;s say some were asleep and we had about 25 people talking about it.  That would give us 50-67%.  That&#039;s a pretty good number for a population that doesn&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a commuter bus full of people of all political stripes who live more than hour outside the city knowing exactly who Plame was, and knew what the Libby trial was about?  We have 30-50 people on the bus for the ride home and it seems almost everyone had a comment.  So, let&#8217;s say some were asleep and we had about 25 people talking about it.  That would give us 50-67%.  That&#8217;s a pretty good number for a population that doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: mban11</title>
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		<dc:creator>mban11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such hypocracy!  You were all over Clinton when he was tried for exactly the smae thing, with less evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such hypocracy!  You were all over Clinton when he was tried for exactly the smae thing, with less evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: gil</title>
		<link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict-is-in/comment-page-1/#comment-334413</link>
		<dc:creator>gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie

In the end the trial does not matter much, you are right. This is about a President and his cabinet LYING about WMD&#039;s intelligence in Iraq, to get us into an unnecessary war that we will pay for generations to come.

For this, the average American does not need to know who Libby is, or if he is guilty and of what. For this the veredict is already out (look at the polls) and the Bush Administration has been found guilty as charged.

History is going to have a field day with these bunch of liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie</p>
<p>In the end the trial does not matter much, you are right. This is about a President and his cabinet LYING about WMD&#8217;s intelligence in Iraq, to get us into an unnecessary war that we will pay for generations to come.</p>
<p>For this, the average American does not need to know who Libby is, or if he is guilty and of what. For this the veredict is already out (look at the polls) and the Bush Administration has been found guilty as charged.</p>
<p>History is going to have a field day with these bunch of liars.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There’s a grown-up world out there and the rest of us will be busy tending to serious matters. &lt;/i&gt;.

She was a CIA expert on WMD, with a special focus in the Iranian nuclear program. Can&#039;t see how that&#039;s important these days? Really? The rest of us must be reading newspapers that don&#039;t require crayon participation.

Really. It&#039;s pathetic to watch the idiotic contortions you people are going through to excuse an administration-wide smear on a guy &lt;i&gt;by ripping on his wife&lt;/i&gt; who worked for the CIA and the subsequent cover up. Hell, even BUSH, once upon a time, thought it was so important he&#039;d fire anyone in his administration found to leak such a thing. That no fewer than four people did (Ari Fleischer, Richard Armitrage, Karl Rove and Scooter Libby), well, WHOOPS, I guess the President really IS a liar. 

OK, so you don&#039;t want to pay attention to this. How about Walter Reed -- the GOP&#039;s loveletter to our wounded soliders? Or whatabout the series of suicide bombings today in Iraq? No, that&#039;s depressing. I know, what about the politically-motivated purge of US Attorneys, orchestrated by the GOP? 

I&#039;m thinking you&#039;ll bury your head on those too. Not important. It&#039;s WAY more important to note something Hillary Clinton said on the campaign trail today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There’s a grown-up world out there and the rest of us will be busy tending to serious matters. </i>.</p>
<p>She was a CIA expert on WMD, with a special focus in the Iranian nuclear program. Can&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s important these days? Really? The rest of us must be reading newspapers that don&#8217;t require crayon participation.</p>
<p>Really. It&#8217;s pathetic to watch the idiotic contortions you people are going through to excuse an administration-wide smear on a guy <i>by ripping on his wife</i> who worked for the CIA and the subsequent cover up. Hell, even BUSH, once upon a time, thought it was so important he&#8217;d fire anyone in his administration found to leak such a thing. That no fewer than four people did (Ari Fleischer, Richard Armitrage, Karl Rove and Scooter Libby), well, WHOOPS, I guess the President really IS a liar. </p>
<p>OK, so you don&#8217;t want to pay attention to this. How about Walter Reed &#8212; the GOP&#8217;s loveletter to our wounded soliders? Or whatabout the series of suicide bombings today in Iraq? No, that&#8217;s depressing. I know, what about the politically-motivated purge of US Attorneys, orchestrated by the GOP? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;ll bury your head on those too. Not important. It&#8217;s WAY more important to note something Hillary Clinton said on the campaign trail today.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/03/06/the-verdict-is-in/comment-page-1/#comment-334332</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil&#039;s Advocate,

To be precise, the House impeached Clinton on charges of obstruction of justice and perjury, but he was acquitted of the charges in the Senate.

So he was not &quot;guilty&quot; of either charge.

Libby, on the other hand, was charged with both crimes and convicted of both.  That&#039;s why Libby is facing prison, and Clinton finished his term and left office with a 65% approval rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil&#8217;s Advocate,</p>
<p>To be precise, the House impeached Clinton on charges of obstruction of justice and perjury, but he was acquitted of the charges in the Senate.</p>
<p>So he was not &#8220;guilty&#8221; of either charge.</p>
<p>Libby, on the other hand, was charged with both crimes and convicted of both.  That&#8217;s why Libby is facing prison, and Clinton finished his term and left office with a 65% approval rating.</p>
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