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> <channel><title>Comments on: Cha-CHING!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:10:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Joey G.</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318324</link> <dc:creator>Joey G.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:35:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318324</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I have no problem with Exxon-Mobil making record profits. I own their stock&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Sucker!
&quot;here little guy, you can get some free money! just buy some of our stock and when we steal from you all, you&#039;ll feel great because some other poor stock market sucker will pay you free money!&quot;
Get-something-for-nothing is how con artists hook their marks. The stock market is a obfuscated and distributed version of the old shell game. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;I have no problem with Exxon-Mobil making record profits. I own their stock&quot;</i></p><p>Sucker!</p><p>&quot;here little guy, you can get some free money! just buy some of our stock and when we steal from you all, you&#039;ll feel great because some other poor stock market sucker will pay you free money!&quot;</p><p>Get-something-for-nothing is how con artists hook their marks. The stock market is a obfuscated and distributed version of the old shell game.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ibfamous</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318073</link> <dc:creator>ibfamous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318073</guid> <description>johnd forgot one little tidbit - in my state the oil companies were able to get the federal government to cut them a bypass through our wetlands so they could get their tankers to their refineries quicker. unfortunately those wetlands were our defense against the storm surge caused by hurricanes. so now I spend every waking hour dealing with my nearly destroyed city with no help from the oil companies that helped spawn this catastrophe. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnd forgot one little tidbit &#8211; in my state the oil companies were able to get the federal government to cut them a bypass through our wetlands so they could get their tankers to their refineries quicker. unfortunately those wetlands were our defense against the storm surge caused by hurricanes. so now I spend every waking hour dealing with my nearly destroyed city with no help from the oil companies that helped spawn this catastrophe.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318046</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:24:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318046</guid> <description>johnd - If you&#039;ve read my post, you&#039;ll see that I&#039;m opposed to oil company subsidies. I fail to see your point in relation to mine.
Also, your state probably has a law or two in place that prevents local station owners from selling oil at too low a price. Those laws aren&#039;t set at the behest of big greedy oil companies (who already have their money even before it&#039;s sold to you). It&#039;d be interesting to find out who likes those laws, don&#039;t you think? I&#039;d start with the state government that gets a huge amount of tax revenue from gasoline sales.
fiskhus jim - You&#039;re making stuff up now. Arrgue the actual point, please. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnd &#8211; If you&#039;ve read my post, you&#039;ll see that I&#039;m opposed to oil company subsidies. I fail to see your point in relation to mine.</p><p>Also, your state probably has a law or two in place that prevents local station owners from selling oil at too low a price. Those laws aren&#039;t set at the behest of big greedy oil companies (who already have their money even before it&#039;s sold to you). It&#039;d be interesting to find out who likes those laws, don&#039;t you think? I&#039;d start with the state government that gets a huge amount of tax revenue from gasoline sales.</p><p>fiskhus jim &#8211; You&#039;re making stuff up now. Arrgue the actual point, please.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fiskhus jim</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318042</link> <dc:creator>fiskhus jim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:01:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318042</guid> <description>Since you don&#039;t think the rich who derive benefit from our government should ever be required to contribute to the continued operations of that goverrnment (sounds like a definition of treason to this patriot!) - how about suggesting that ExxonMobil and other corporations at least exhibit their courage and accept personal responsibility for ALL of the legitimate costs of doing business (including the costs of cleaning up pollution) instead of outsourcing those costs to the backs of Americans who are poorer than they are?
Or do you advocate organized crime, theft and extortion as valid ways of doing &quot;bidness&quot;? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you don&#039;t think the rich who derive benefit from our government should ever be required to contribute to the continued operations of that goverrnment (sounds like a definition of treason to this patriot!) &#8211; how about suggesting that ExxonMobil and other corporations at least exhibit their courage and accept personal responsibility for ALL of the legitimate costs of doing business (including the costs of cleaning up pollution) instead of outsourcing those costs to the backs of Americans who are poorer than they are?</p><p>Or do you advocate organized crime, theft and extortion as valid ways of doing &quot;bidness&quot;?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Filancia</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318033</link> <dc:creator>Mike Filancia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:25:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318033</guid> <description>How about Exxon taking some of that profit and paying for the Exxon Valdez spill of how many years ago? They still haven&#039;t paid for the cleanup . </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Exxon taking some of that profit and paying for the Exxon Valdez spill of how many years ago? They still haven&#039;t paid for the cleanup .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: madmatt</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318021</link> <dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:30:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318021</guid> <description>Jimmie, you are a pig ignorant corporate shill...how much do you get paid to provide a cover for exxon. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie, you are a pig ignorant corporate shill&#8230;how much do you get paid to provide a cover for exxon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: johnd</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-318018</link> <dc:creator>johnd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-318018</guid> <description>jimmie,
You def can&#039;t help me. You don&#039;t get it by a long shot. Multinational petro-chemical companies have a mutually beneficial relationship with world governments. The &quot;government&quot; sets oil gas lease rates, keeps &quot;strategic&quot; oil reserves, meddles in pipeline rights, currency, international lending gaurantees, shipping, futures trading and even in negotiations with anti-capitalist oil cartels and on and on. All these things have impact on petroleum futures trading levels and the government entities that take these actions invariably have oil executives or their proxies right at their elbows when they act.
Big oil is plain and simply statist. The owners feign interest in total deregulation, but get fat off niches and market inefficiencies that their friends in government forge for them.
Your little &quot;free markets are the best&quot; stroke fest is humorous.
Near my house, near the interstate at the high volume stations, gas was $2.26 this weekend, 50 miles back into the mountains in a small town, the price at the two little low volume stations competing for the morning coffee commuter market were selling gas for $2.15.  Both areas are served by the same wholesale fuel dealers so on any given day they pay the same to fill their tanks. They must consider their costs, and they set prices to maximize profit, and prices can vary a small amount as seen here but their costs and competition&#039;s prices are closeley correlated to their sell price.  That&#039;s the free market at work.
The way Exxon Mobil sets wholesale prices is a wholly different matter. Although for much of their product they own it though it&#039;s entire journey from oil well to refinery to gas pump, futures markets, not their actual costs and the end user markets elastic limits , have the biggest influence on prices. The fix is in.
You may be correct in scolding folks that whining for companies to give back windfall profits is stupidity - it is. To wax poetic that this is the free market working at it&#039;s best shows you simply want to make the super sucessful oil executives and political operatives who are plainly gaming the system seem virtuous. They are cheaters. You are carrying their water without compensation. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmie,</p><p>You def can&#039;t help me. You don&#039;t get it by a long shot. Multinational petro-chemical companies have a mutually beneficial relationship with world governments. The &quot;government&quot; sets oil gas lease rates, keeps &quot;strategic&quot; oil reserves, meddles in pipeline rights, currency, international lending gaurantees, shipping, futures trading and even in negotiations with anti-capitalist oil cartels and on and on. All these things have impact on petroleum futures trading levels and the government entities that take these actions invariably have oil executives or their proxies right at their elbows when they act.</p><p>Big oil is plain and simply statist. The owners feign interest in total deregulation, but get fat off niches and market inefficiencies that their friends in government forge for them.</p><p>Your little &quot;free markets are the best&quot; stroke fest is humorous.</p><p>Near my house, near the interstate at the high volume stations, gas was $2.26 this weekend, 50 miles back into the mountains in a small town, the price at the two little low volume stations competing for the morning coffee commuter market were selling gas for $2.15.  Both areas are served by the same wholesale fuel dealers so on any given day they pay the same to fill their tanks. They must consider their costs, and they set prices to maximize profit, and prices can vary a small amount as seen here but their costs and competition&#039;s prices are closeley correlated to their sell price.  That&#039;s the free market at work.</p><p>The way Exxon Mobil sets wholesale prices is a wholly different matter. Although for much of their product they own it though it&#039;s entire journey from oil well to refinery to gas pump, futures markets, not their actual costs and the end user markets elastic limits , have the biggest influence on prices. The fix is in.</p><p>You may be correct in scolding folks that whining for companies to give back windfall profits is stupidity &#8211; it is. To wax poetic that this is the free market working at it&#039;s best shows you simply want to make the super sucessful oil executives and political operatives who are plainly gaming the system seem virtuous. They are cheaters. You are carrying their water without compensation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/02/02/cha-ching/comment-page-1/#comment-317764</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2939#comment-317764</guid> <description>Chris, it seems that the owners of the company are quite pleased with how the corporation is performing.
And, just so you know, corporations do not perform for the public welfare. They perform for the benefit of their owners, the stockholders. That&#039;s how it&#039;s done in soccessful economies. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, it seems that the owners of the company are quite pleased with how the corporation is performing.</p><p>And, just so you know, corporations do not perform for the public welfare. They perform for the benefit of their owners, the stockholders. That&#039;s how it&#039;s done in soccessful economies.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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