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> <channel><title>Comments on: Hastert Should Go.</title> <atom:link href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/</link> <description>Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:10:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: House of Flying Daggers at Blog P.I.</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290783</link> <dc:creator>House of Flying Daggers at Blog P.I.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:43:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290783</guid> <description>[...] That&#8217;s about how The Sundries Shack sees it: Hastert knew about at least some of the communications between Mark Foley and an underaged boy. Even if he didn’t know about the sexually explicit communications, it seems obvious that Hastert did little to rectify the situation. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s about how The Sundries Shack sees it: Hastert knew about at least some of the communications between Mark Foley and an underaged boy. Even if he didn’t know about the sexually explicit communications, it seems obvious that Hastert did little to rectify the situation. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290787</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290787</guid> <description>I&#039;m willing to separate the criminal from the plain wrong.
I&#039;m inclined to believe that Foley didn&#039;t commit a crime. The page is older than the required age of consent in both his and Foley&#039;s state, so that doesn&#039;t put Foley over the line there.
On the other hand, I just can&#039;t condone how Hastert thought what Foley did was no big deal. I&#039;m not even asking that Hasters be held to a higher standard than if he were in a similar position in a private company. We know very well, I think, that had this been, say IBM, Hastert would be resigning right now for allowing such sexual harassment to continue. Yes, I know the boy&#039;s parents didn&#039;t want a big deal made of this, but there are ways to deal with Foley firmly and without ambiguity that don&#039;t involve trumpeting it from the highest mountain. Hastert should have at least been savvy enough to recognize that if the Democrats were to find out about it (and of course they would), they&#039;d make as much political hay out of it as they could. So if there are Republicans who are not inclined to punish Hastert for not dealing with Foley because of the offense, they certainly ought to punish him for being politically inept. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m willing to separate the criminal from the plain wrong.</p><p>I&#039;m inclined to believe that Foley didn&#039;t commit a crime. The page is older than the required age of consent in both his and Foley&#039;s state, so that doesn&#039;t put Foley over the line there.</p><p>On the other hand, I just can&#039;t condone how Hastert thought what Foley did was no big deal. I&#039;m not even asking that Hasters be held to a higher standard than if he were in a similar position in a private company. We know very well, I think, that had this been, say IBM, Hastert would be resigning right now for allowing such sexual harassment to continue. Yes, I know the boy&#039;s parents didn&#039;t want a big deal made of this, but there are ways to deal with Foley firmly and without ambiguity that don&#039;t involve trumpeting it from the highest mountain. Hastert should have at least been savvy enough to recognize that if the Democrats were to find out about it (and of course they would), they&#039;d make as much political hay out of it as they could. So if there are Republicans who are not inclined to punish Hastert for not dealing with Foley because of the offense, they certainly ought to punish him for being politically inept.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robbie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290778</link> <dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:56:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290778</guid> <description>After reading the portions of the IM conversations available, I would say that Mr. Foley skated VERY CLOSE to the criminal wrongdoing line. Even if it&#039;s not technically criminal, it should definitely viewed as morally criminal.
I&#039;m surprised at how pissed off this whole thing has made me. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the portions of the IM conversations available, I would say that Mr. Foley skated VERY CLOSE to the criminal wrongdoing line. Even if it&#039;s not technically criminal, it should definitely viewed as morally criminal.</p><p>I&#039;m surprised at how pissed off this whole thing has made me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jimmie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290771</link> <dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:03:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290771</guid> <description>Yes, Robbie, that&#039;s what I meant. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a shocker to find out that some gay men are attracted to boys who are 16-19 just like some heterosexual men are attracted to girls who are 16-19. No big shocker.
And lest anyone get the wrong impression about something else: this isn&#039;t about legality or some criminal wrongdoing. We have no idea whether Mark Foley actually broke the law. The FBI is looking into that, but initial indications are that he did not. So what&#039;s here isn&#039;t so much a cover-up of legal wrongdoing but abuse of power.
It&#039;s one side of the coin (along with the actual legal wrongdoing that occurred also) that had folks like me so up in arms about Bill Clinton. No conservative should be on the side of those who want to preserve their power, even if that gives the advantage to a host of rather slimy Democrats who are using Foley&#039;s misdeeds for their own political advantage. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Robbie, that&#039;s what I meant. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a shocker to find out that some gay men are attracted to boys who are 16-19 just like some heterosexual men are attracted to girls who are 16-19. No big shocker.</p><p>And lest anyone get the wrong impression about something else: this isn&#039;t about legality or some criminal wrongdoing. We have no idea whether Mark Foley actually broke the law. The FBI is looking into that, but initial indications are that he did not. So what&#039;s here isn&#039;t so much a cover-up of legal wrongdoing but abuse of power.</p><p>It&#039;s one side of the coin (along with the actual legal wrongdoing that occurred also) that had folks like me so up in arms about Bill Clinton. No conservative should be on the side of those who want to preserve their power, even if that gives the advantage to a host of rather slimy Democrats who are using Foley&#039;s misdeeds for their own political advantage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robbie</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290769</link> <dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290769</guid> <description>I&#039;m sure you meant either &quot;I suspect that &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;some gay men are attracted&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; to teenaged boys the same way that some heterosexual men are attracted to teenaged girls&quot; or &quot;I suspect that gay men are occasionally attracted to teenaged boys the same way that &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;heterosexual men are occasionally attracted&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; to teenaged girls.&quot;
The way you wrote it implies that all gay men are attracted to children, which isn&#039;t the case at all. Mr. Foley falls into that disgusting level of humanity along-side John Mark Karr.
I agree with you that this isn&#8217;t a case of sexual orientation nor is it gay bashing. It is calling abhorrent behavior out, wherever it may be, and punishing it appropriately. This, too, goes for those who wish to offer cover to those sick individuals who prey on the young. Republican ... Democrat ... Independent ... it doesn&#039;t matter. You&#039;re all being called to the floor.
Honestly, we should vote every single Congressional incumbent out of office and start from scratch with people who aren&#8217;t tainted by the corruption of power. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sure you meant either &quot;I suspect that <b><i>some gay men are attracted</i></b> to teenaged boys the same way that some heterosexual men are attracted to teenaged girls&quot; or &quot;I suspect that gay men are occasionally attracted to teenaged boys the same way that <b><i>heterosexual men are occasionally attracted</i></b> to teenaged girls.&quot;</p><p>The way you wrote it implies that all gay men are attracted to children, which isn&#039;t the case at all. Mr. Foley falls into that disgusting level of humanity along-side John Mark Karr.</p><p>I agree with you that this isn&rsquo;t a case of sexual orientation nor is it gay bashing. It is calling abhorrent behavior out, wherever it may be, and punishing it appropriately. This, too, goes for those who wish to offer cover to those sick individuals who prey on the young. Republican &#8230; Democrat &#8230; Independent &#8230; it doesn&#039;t matter. You&#039;re all being called to the floor.</p><p>Honestly, we should vote every single Congressional incumbent out of office and start from scratch with people who aren&rsquo;t tainted by the corruption of power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title><link>http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/10/02/hastert-should-go/comment-page-1/#comment-290738</link> <dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:57:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2730#comment-290738</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;FBI looking into Foley e-mail scandal...&lt;/strong&gt;The FBI is assessing whether Mark Foley, a six-term Florida Republican, broke any laws when he alleg...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FBI looking into Foley e-mail scandal&#8230;</strong></p><p>The FBI is assessing whether Mark Foley, a six-term Florida Republican, broke any laws when he alleg&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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