Comments on: Some Dare Call It Conspiracy. I Dare Call It A Dumb Theory. http://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/06/08/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy-i-dare-call-it-a-dumb-theory/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Tue, 22 May 2012 02:51:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jimmiehttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/06/08/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy-i-dare-call-it-a-dumb-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-216158 Jimmie Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:48:17 +0000 http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2452#comment-216158 But Tom, in order for fraud to have affected the election in the way that Brad would have us believe, far more than one machine would have to be tampered with. If, as he suggests, the fraud was confined to the one county where workers took the machines home (and remember, election workers aren't a squadron of McGyvers), nearly every one of those machine would have to have been affected for it to have the desired effect. He's on a long, long fishing trip there and he doesn't have much bait. But Tom, in order for fraud to have affected the election in the way that Brad would have us believe, far more than one machine would have to be tampered with. If, as he suggests, the fraud was confined to the one county where workers took the machines home (and remember, election workers aren't a squadron of McGyvers), nearly every one of those machine would have to have been affected for it to have the desired effect.

He's on a long, long fishing trip there and he doesn't have much bait.

]]> By: Tomhttp://www.sundriesshack.com/2006/06/08/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy-i-dare-call-it-a-dumb-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-215652 Tom Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:30:57 +0000 http://sundriesshack.com/?p=2452#comment-215652 The Brad Blog is really fishing for fraud here. I spent five years as an engineer designing an electronic voting machine, so I know a little about how to hack into them. Brad is right that the Diebold machines are insecure and, yes, that little piece of tape can be easily removed (more later), but it is doubtful that there was any real fraud in this election. The 50th district is a rock solid Republican District and the Democrats will NEVER win there. They didn't really even have to hold an election. If the Republicans ran Charles Manson and the Democrats ran Jesus Christ, Charles Manson would win that district. This ain't Ohio. So how do you remove tamper tape? Easy, you use a solvent to dissolve the adhesive and then you apply a new adhesive to the tape before you reapply it (or buy new tape). Adhesives vary, but usually Acetone, Methylene Chloride, or Methyl Ethyl Ketone will do the trick in less then 20 minutes. There may be a little damge to the underlying material, but that can be easily corrected with paint. Think someone will notice? Think about how good a paint shop can make your car look after an accident. Believe me, nobody will ever notice. With fast dying paints and a hair dryer, the paint job could be completed in about an hour. This is why we didn't use adhesives for tamper protection for our voting machine. We also didn't put the operating system on the machine until 15 minutes before the election and only the election supervisor was alowed to do that. You can't hack a dummy machine was our philosophy. The problem with Diebold is that they don't understand the concept of data security. They didn't have to think about data security for their ATM machines because banking errors happen all the time. If there is an error on your account, they will just correct it in a few weeks. And they can because there is already so much error checking at the Federal Reserve level that they don't need to do it at the ATM. You can't do that with elections, because the information is contained in only one place. In a banking transaction, there are always two banks involved and, therefore, two seperate sets of information. So, Brad is right to say that it would be possible to affect the election results. But, in this district, there would only be fraud if a Democrat won. The Brad Blog is really fishing for fraud here. I spent five years as an engineer designing an electronic voting machine, so I know a little about how to hack into them. Brad is right that the Diebold machines are insecure and, yes, that little piece of tape can be easily removed (more later), but it is doubtful that there was any real fraud in this election. The 50th district is a rock solid Republican District and the Democrats will NEVER win there. They didn't really even have to hold an election. If the Republicans ran Charles Manson and the Democrats ran Jesus Christ, Charles Manson would win that district. This ain't Ohio. So how do you remove tamper tape? Easy, you use a solvent to dissolve the adhesive and then you apply a new adhesive to the tape before you reapply it (or buy new tape). Adhesives vary, but usually Acetone, Methylene Chloride, or Methyl Ethyl Ketone will do the trick in less then 20 minutes. There may be a little damge to the underlying material, but that can be easily corrected with paint. Think someone will notice? Think about how good a paint shop can make your car look after an accident. Believe me, nobody will ever notice. With fast dying paints and a hair dryer, the paint job could be completed in about an hour. This is why we didn't use adhesives for tamper protection for our voting machine. We also didn't put the operating system on the machine until 15 minutes before the election and only the election supervisor was alowed to do that. You can't hack a dummy machine was our philosophy. The problem with Diebold is that they don't understand the concept of data security. They didn't have to think about data security for their ATM machines because banking errors happen all the time. If there is an error on your account, they will just correct it in a few weeks. And they can because there is already so much error checking at the Federal Reserve level that they don't need to do it at the ATM. You can't do that with elections, because the information is contained in only one place. In a banking transaction, there are always two banks involved and, therefore, two seperate sets of information. So, Brad is right to say that it would be possible to affect the election results. But, in this district, there would only be fraud if a Democrat won.

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