Comments on: US Soldiers No Different from Nazis? http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/ Delivering the Best of the New Media Since 2004. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:08:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Number 2 Pencil http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35718 Number 2 Pencil Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:10:30 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35718 <strong>A question of history</strong> A brilliant editorial in the LATimes by Dr. David Gelertner is in part about Senator Dick Durbin's recent idiotic remarks (The Sundries Shack has a great timeline of events), but the take-away message is a plea for better history education... A question of history
A brilliant editorial in the LATimes by Dr. David Gelertner is in part about Senator Dick Durbin’s recent idiotic remarks (The Sundries Shack has a great timeline of events), but the take-away message is a plea for better history education…

]]> By: Balance Sheet http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35471 Balance Sheet Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:04:25 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35471 <strong>Shame on Senator Durbin</strong> When I heard Senator Durbin’s speech, I was appalled that a United States Senator would equate the actions of American troops with those of Hitler’s Nazis, Stalin’s Gulag, and the genocidal regime of the Khmer Rouge’s Pol Pot. It was... Shame on Senator Durbin
When I heard Senator Durbin’s speech, I was appalled that a United States Senator would equate the actions of American troops with those of Hitler’s Nazis, Stalin’s Gulag, and the genocidal regime of the Khmer Rouge’s Pol Pot. It was…

]]> By: Jimmie http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35470 Jimmie Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:52:58 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35470 It isn't torture, Joseph. Being shackled in a lying positioin for a whole day? Having loud music played? Letting them lie there and soil themselves? That's miles and miles from torture. Sure, it may be distasteful to a lot of people but we need to be very careful about our use of certain words. "Torture" and "Nazis" are two of te ones we need to be most careful about because they describe things so horrible that invoking them ought to draw ire from every quarter, regardless of ideology. UNfortunatley, by calling things like stress positions, sleep deprivation, temperature extremes, and loud music "torture" we do a great disservice to the word and we insult everyone who is suffering from real torture around the world. It isn't torture, Joseph. Being shackled in a lying positioin for a whole day? Having loud music played? Letting them lie there and soil themselves?

That's miles and miles from torture. Sure, it may be distasteful to a lot of people but we need to be very careful about our use of certain words. "Torture" and "Nazis" are two of te ones we need to be most careful about because they describe things so horrible that invoking them ought to draw ire from every quarter, regardless of ideology.

UNfortunatley, by calling things like stress positions, sleep deprivation, temperature extremes, and loud music "torture" we do a great disservice to the word and we insult everyone who is suffering from real torture around the world.

]]> By: Don Singleton http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35454 Don Singleton Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:42:58 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35454 <strong>US Soldiers No Different from Nazis?</strong> Millions of people died in the Nazi Death Camps, the Russian Gulags, and under Pol Pot. No one died at Gitmo. And unless they don't like Honey Glazed Chicken and Rice Pilaf, the internees at Gitmo are living better than they did at home. US Soldiers No Different from Nazis?
Millions of people died in the Nazi Death Camps, the Russian Gulags, and under Pol Pot. No one died at Gitmo. And unless they don’t like Honey Glazed Chicken and Rice Pilaf, the internees at Gitmo are living better than they did at home.

]]> By: Joseph Marshall http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35469 Joseph Marshall Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:34:36 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35469 <!-- spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. --> <!-- spamk : KARMA: -4 --> <!-- spamk : Treatment: purgatory --> Torture is as torture does. What Durbin quotes is torture. Period. Some like their torture straight, some like it wrapped in the American Flag, and some even like it in a Cuban "paradise" with good meals. You pays your money, you takes your choice. <!– spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. –>
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Torture is as torture does. What Durbin quotes is torture. Period. Some like their torture straight, some like it wrapped in the American Flag, and some even like it in a Cuban "paradise" with good meals. You pays your money, you takes your choice.

]]> By: broed http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35468 broed Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:27:03 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35468 <!-- spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. --> <!-- spamk : KARMA: -4 --> <!-- spamk : Treatment: purgatory --> The US are the good guys. We're supposed to be better than the bad guys. Instead of spazing aobut the pointy-headed left, we ought to be expounding at great legth and in great detail what the iving conditnions are like at Gitmo -- the living conditions (for general population, not the special housing units for disciplinary segregation) how the medical treatment happens, how they get pastoral care or religious rights respected, and so on. When we spend more time talking about Senator Durbin than that, then we are not fighting ABL on the facts, we are sidetracked into our domestic politics. <!– spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. –>
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The US are the good guys. We're supposed to be better than the bad guys. Instead of spazing aobut the pointy-headed left, we ought to be expounding at great legth and in great detail what the iving conditnions are like at Gitmo — the living conditions (for general population, not the special housing units for disciplinary segregation) how the medical treatment happens, how they get pastoral care or religious rights respected, and so on. When we spend more time talking about Senator Durbin than that, then we are not fighting ABL on the facts, we are sidetracked into our domestic politics.

]]> By: Ellen http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35456 Ellen Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:50:10 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35456 <!-- spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. --> <!-- spamk : KARMA: -4 --> <!-- spamk : Treatment: purgatory --> Your right. We need to listen and remember. As a vet, I find the remarks of many on the left growing more iritating by the day. As a lifelong democrat until Ronald Reagan, I find the Democratic Party completely out of touch with the common person in the street unless they are from some far out group. Hold your breath on seeing much condemnation. Americans have a habit of getting a little weak in the knee when the going gets tough and soldiers are killed. That is what ABL and the terrorist are counting on and the Democratic Party and the MSM are leading the way just like ABL planned. <!– spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. –>
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Your right. We need to listen and remember. As a vet, I find the remarks of many on the left growing more iritating by the day. As a lifelong democrat until Ronald Reagan, I find the Democratic Party completely out of touch with the common person in the street unless they are from some far out group. Hold your breath on seeing much condemnation. Americans have a habit of getting a little weak in the knee when the going gets tough and soldiers are killed. That is what ABL and the terrorist are counting on and the Democratic Party and the MSM are leading the way just like ABL planned.

]]> By: Bob Diethrich http://www.sundriesshack.com/2005/06/15/us-soldiers-no-different-from-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-35455 Bob Diethrich Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:27:37 +0000 /?p=1800#comment-35455 <!-- spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. --> <!-- spamk : KARMA: -4 --> <!-- spamk : Treatment: purgatory --> Funny. I don't notice any metion of military service on Durbin's official bio. Perhaps he would like to talk to my uncle who was among those who liberated Dachau? Maybe he would then have a better ground for comparison. <!– spamk : Failed Discussion tab checks. –>
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Funny. I don't notice any metion of military service on Durbin's official bio. Perhaps he would like to talk to my uncle who was among those who liberated Dachau? Maybe he would then have a better ground for comparison.

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